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OpenAI faces complaint to FTC that seeks suspension of ChatGPT releases

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Re: OpenAI faces complaint to FTC that seeks suspension of ChatGPT releases

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One way or other, the cat is out of the bag and there is no going back. Remember Napster. Even if Open AI/ChatGPT is taken down, however unlikely, there is no slowing down the innovation that is about to transform our lives. This moment in time feels like early 2000s when Web 1.0 became real to masses and suddenly everyone had a use for web. We are at precipice of the next big technology cycle, and this is showing all the classical symptoms of incumbents fighting the inevitable disruption

Re: OpenAI faces complaint to FTC that seeks suspension of ChatGPT releases

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What do they expect to happen if they win? OpenAI can't use GPT-4 (or build/release GPT-5), but the innovation will continue in areas of the world not subject to this regular? I understand that the LLM models are advancing quickly and aren't easily explainable or transparent. The models feel like magic at times. But that doesn't mean society should shut them down. This is fearful behavior and spreading FUD really. Th…

They expect:

- To be paid a lot of money by OpenAI to go away, or

- To be paid a lot of money to have a role in vetting future AI products, or

- To be paid a lot of money by wealthy individuals in the AI alignment camp, or

- To be paid a lot of money by OpenAI's competitors to block research until they can catch up with OpenAI.

Re: OpenAI faces complaint to FTC that seeks suspension of ChatGPT releases

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post #2

What do they expect to happen if they win? OpenAI can't use GPT-4 (or build/release GPT-5), but the innovation will continue in areas of the world not subject to this regular? I understand that the LLM models are advancing quickly and aren't easily explainable or transparent. The models feel like magic at times. But that doesn't mean society should shut them down. This is fearful behavior and spreading FUD really. Th…

It reminds me of a time when new ideas about spirituality and human position in the universe were so disruptive to the status quo operation of the church and kingdom of England that they were outlawed.

And pilgrims abandoned all they had to cross a virtually unpassable ocean to seek empty land to build from scratch but with the freedom to continue experimenting with their new ideas.

Funny how this country has come full circle.

Re: OpenAI faces complaint to FTC that seeks suspension of ChatGPT releases

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post #32
post #2

What do they expect to happen if they win? OpenAI can't use GPT-4 (or build/release GPT-5), but the innovation will continue in areas of the world not subject to this regular? I understand that the LLM models are advancing quickly and aren't easily explainable or transparent. The models feel like magic at times. But that doesn't mean society should shut them down. This is fearful behavior and spreading FUD really. Th…

They expect: - To be paid a lot of money by OpenAI to go away, or - To be paid a lot of money to have a role in vetting future AI products, or - To be paid a lot of money by wealthy individuals in the AI alignment camp, or - To be paid a lot of money by OpenAI's competitors to block research until they can catch up with OpenAI.

Interesting. I hadn’t thought about this as a pure money grab yet.

Re: OpenAI faces complaint to FTC that seeks suspension of ChatGPT releases

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Neo-Luddism. Like they are going to stop China or any other country outside US or EU. The most they can hope to do, is to force some companies to move off-shore. Wonder where was all this people when Elon Musk started releasing betas on FSD. Self-appointed 'Center for AI and Digital Policy', nothing more to add.

> Wonder where was all this people when Elon Musk started releasing betas on FSD.

Loudly and openly for the entire duration, including governments specifically saying the marketing was misleading.

Re: OpenAI faces complaint to FTC that seeks suspension of ChatGPT releases

#38

One way or other, the cat is out of the bag and there is no going back. Remember Napster. Even if Open AI/ChatGPT is taken down, however unlikely, there is no slowing down the innovation that is about to transform our lives. This moment in time feels like early 2000s when Web 1.0 became real to masses and suddenly everyone had a use for web. We are at precipice of the next big technology cycle, and this is showing al…

If they succeed in freezing AI development there will be no APIs like OpenAI is offering. It'll be all closed doors. Huge Benefit for those with access, rest of humanity basically plebs.

Re: OpenAI faces complaint to FTC that seeks suspension of ChatGPT releases

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your argument is companies should be allowed to do anything they like, because there will be another country where they can abuse with impunity?

I think the argument is that no harm has actually been shown and there is no legal reason to have one of the fastest growing companies hamstrung while Big Tech gets it's shit together.

SEO spam and social media fake content are already pretty common, so there is definitely at least some harm

Re: OpenAI faces complaint to FTC that seeks suspension of ChatGPT releases

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One way or other, the cat is out of the bag and there is no going back. Remember Napster. Even if Open AI/ChatGPT is taken down, however unlikely, there is no slowing down the innovation that is about to transform our lives. This moment in time feels like early 2000s when Web 1.0 became real to masses and suddenly everyone had a use for web. We are at precipice of the next big technology cycle, and this is showing al…

> One way or other, the cat is out of the bag and there is no going back.

As long as ChatGPT and GPT-4 is available as an API, the cat has been tethered by its owner and can be put back into the bag.

> This moment in time feels like early 2000s when Web 1.0 became real to masses and suddenly everyone had a use for web.

Where 90% of startups have just went out of business. Even if they are emerging, the big tech conglomerates will just out pace them before they could attempt to challenge them.

> We are at precipice of the next big technology cycle, and this is showing all the classical symptoms of incumbents fighting the inevitable disruption

They said that about FSD as well, IoT, etc. Yet none of that was trusted enough to 'take off'.

There is something in the way which separates the legitimate use-cases from the grifters and it is called 'Regulation and compliance', which eliminates the majority of short-term grifts just like the AI hype of LLMs on everything.

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