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Re: Judge decides against Internet Archive

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> The current law is broken I think many agree that copyright needs to be shortened, but what does “broken” mean, exactly? I have good feelings for the Internet Archive, but in this case it’s about a handful of books that are being copied and distributed a mere 5 years after initial publication, which I think a lot of people who want copyright shortened would still agree is quite a bit too short. Books frequently get…

>Books frequently get popular long after initial publication. Is that relevant? To me copyright is there to encourage the creation of new works. I doubt any publisher takes into account book sales more than 5 years out when deciding whether to publish a new book. I have artist friends. Current copyright acts as more of an inhibitor than enabler of their creativity.

I think books (or any works) staying popular on a long time scale, or becoming popular long after creation, is extremely relevant to how long copyright terms should be, yes. That seems apparent, so why do you ask?

You’re right that copyright is there to encourage creation of new works, and the stated mechanism for doing this is by granting the creator a limited-time monopoly, so they have a chance to make money.

Why do you doubt that publishers aren’t considering more than 5 years, and to turn your question back on you - why exactly is that relevant? There certainly can be a difference between why they decide to publish a book, and whether they should have the exclusive right to make money from a book after 5 years, can there not? Since you’re making a broad generalization, think about all book types, text books, reference books, novels, literature, non-fiction, etc. Aren’t some of those slower to publish and slower to go out of date? Think about walking through Barnes & Noble and tell me you believe that everything in the store in less than 5 years old.

And how does copyright inhibit your artist friends? Copyright doesn’t enable creativity, it just protects it, right? Are you sure your artist friends would even get paid for their work without copyright laws in place? If you are sure, then why?

Re: Judge decides against Internet Archive

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Initially I'm enraged against the publishers, the judge and the system in general as many of you, but they are not the issue, while I can't talk on behalf of IA, I don't see this as a fight against the publishers, but a fight against broken business models flourishing because and protected by broken laws meant to protect earlier broken business models The current law is broken, we know that, but most of us don't gras…

Switching from common law to civil law systems should fix a lot of that up. This wouldn't be possible, considering the amount of law that would need to be written to replace an existing common law system but it's an interesting thought experiment.

Louisiana has a civil law system, subject to the Federal Constitution.

Re: Judge decides against Internet Archive

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> The reason Row v Wade was overturned is that the judges don't want to have to decide if abortion is legal or not. No. The reason Roe v Wade was overturned is because conservative middle-aged/old white-guys with money are not happy about people, and by people I mean women , having reproductive choice. It's one of the areas that fundamental islam and conservative "Christians" have significant overlap, and that's not…

> white-guys https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

It's not just about the make-up of the supreme court; it's about the people and politics of the people who appointed them.

Re: Judge decides against Internet Archive

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Just curious: What kind of books do they read? On an ipad or something?

For my five year old, we have been rate limited on overdrive reading Pete the Cat and Franklin books. Partly because the selection is woeful (about 20 English books) compared to IA's thousands in that category.

If a book exists in overdrive, they allow you to request that your library add it to their collection. My first two requests were added to my library within days, several others came a few months later, and now about 4(?) years later I'm still getting an occasional notification about it, though at this point I've read them already...

Re: Judge decides against Internet Archive

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So your argument is that no shopping is an inconvenience, not an imposition? I ask because you did the same thing you're arguing against, and yet failed to provide any counter examples.

I have no argument other than your comment was silly and pointless. This is you realizing that without realizing that.

In which case, so is yours .
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