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Judge finds Google destroyed evidence and repeatedly lied to the court [pdf]

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Re: Judge finds Google destroyed evidence and repeatedly lied to the court [pdf]

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> The Court has repeatedly asked Google why it never mentioned Chat until the issue became a substantial problem. It has not provided an explanation, which is worrisome, especially in light of its unlimited access to accomplished legal counsel, and its long experience with the duty of evidence preservation. courts never stray "outside the case" but I wish they had said "...and google's long experience saving every sc…

> i think when a court finds you have deleted evidence, that the information deleted is assumed to be evidence against you

This is the concept of "adverse inference", and Epic has indeed requested the court instruct the jury of this. However, at this time that hasn't been decided by the court.

Re: Judge finds Google destroyed evidence and repeatedly lied to the court [pdf]

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post #4

It's not "Google" (corporations don't exist in the physical world, so they can't act in it), it was specific people at Google who destroyed evidence or lied to court.

Reminds of the infamous Mitt Romney quote "Corporations are people".

Re: Judge finds Google destroyed evidence and repeatedly lied to the court [pdf]

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post #3

It's worth it b/c corporations only get penalized with measly fines

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We haven't yet figured out how to shutdown cancer once they get past a certain scale. Large tech firms are like cancer is what the last two decades have taught us.

Re: Judge finds Google destroyed evidence and repeatedly lied to the court [pdf]

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is Google and inside Google some specific individuals. Corporations are part of the society and their capital is its representation. Corporations have to be liable and whoever takes benefits has to take this.

Yeah, side note we need corporate death penalty

Isn't that what happened to SVB?

Re: Judge finds Google destroyed evidence and repeatedly lied to the court [pdf]

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post #4

It's not "Google" (corporations don't exist in the physical world, so they can't act in it), it was specific people at Google who destroyed evidence or lied to court.

The point of a corporation is to be a legal person that is considered as a physical person in various ways for purposes of a lawsuit.

That's literally why it has the Latin root corp, meaning body, in the name.

Re: Judge finds Google destroyed evidence and repeatedly lied to the court [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But when things go right, Google reaps most of the benefits, individuals just get a small piece of the pie. But when things go wrong, you want to blame the individuals instead of the group?

It's the American way.

He left Russia for freedom and the American way, and he got Franz Kafka and Goldman Sachs. - Flash Boys

Re: Judge finds Google destroyed evidence and repeatedly lied to the court [pdf]

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post #15

> The Court has repeatedly asked Google why it never mentioned Chat until the issue became a substantial problem. It has not provided an explanation, which is worrisome, especially in light of its unlimited access to accomplished legal counsel, and its long experience with the duty of evidence preservation. courts never stray "outside the case" but I wish they had said "...and google's long experience saving every sc…

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