"The Dark Forest" is a science fiction novel by Liu Cixin, which introduces a concept called "suspicion."(“猜疑链”) In this concept, the interaction between civilizations is viewed as an ongoing game of suspicion, where each civilization is worried that the other civilization may pose a threat to it. This kind of suspicion makes it difficult for civilizations to establish trust, thereby making the universe a dark forest…
Pause Giant AI Experiments: An Open Letter
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#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
the opposite of what Musk wants is the correct course of action for the people. Ok so you want to move back to gas combustion engines, stop deploying internet to rural and third world countries, clamp down on free speech, and make sure there are no tunnels, just elevated highways dividing cities. Is that about right?
You're thinking of the old Musk. He used to be a force for good before his mental break, which I timed when Grimes left him for Chelsea Manning and his oldest son came out trans. That's why I used the words "it's getting to be". Everyone is entitled to a mid-life crisis and Musk is no different, but supporting Putin seems a little extreme to me.
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#293I've been a staunch supporter of Elon throughout all his scandals, especially the Twitter ones but I'm unable to come up with any justification for this. Everything leads to him (and others) pressuring OpenAI to pause so they could catch up. It doesn't take much smarts to deduce the cats already out of the bag. There is no stopping this, only pressuring/slowing-down/targeting certain players (OpenAI) as a competition…
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/27/elon-musk...
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/17/elon-musk...
https://www.wired.com/2016/04/openai-elon-musk-sam-altman-pl...
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#294The world moves on. Dinosaurs either die or evolve.
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#295Musk is such a hypocrite, here he is in 2014 calling AI 'probably our biggest existential threat': https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/27/elon-musk... ...and now nine years later he's calling for caution and a pause. Well he certainly changes his tune whenever it suits him. ... Oh wait ... But yeah I mean if he was so worried about it why didn't he use his fortune and influence to try and make sure AI was…
Re: Pause Giant AI Experiments: An Open Letter
#296"The Dark Forest" is a science fiction novel by Liu Cixin, which introduces a concept called "suspicion."(“猜疑链”) In this concept, the interaction between civilizations is viewed as an ongoing game of suspicion, where each civilization is worried that the other civilization may pose a threat to it. This kind of suspicion makes it difficult for civilizations to establish trust, thereby making the universe a dark forest…
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#297Musk is such a hypocrite, here he is in 2014 calling AI 'probably our biggest existential threat': https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/27/elon-musk... ...and now nine years later he's calling for caution and a pause. Well he certainly changes his tune whenever it suits him. ... Oh wait ... But yeah I mean if he was so worried about it why didn't he use his fortune and influence to try and make sure AI was…
Now he wants OpenAI to pause for 6 months while he builds a "non-woke" competitor himself.
Now Musk is saving humanity yet again by giving us free speech in the form of a new-and-improved Twitter where you have to pay to have your Tweets promoted.
Has he called Sam Altman a pedo yet ?
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#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Don't you think this is needlessly argumentative? It's not relevant to the parent topic. His only purpose in stating the part you quoted was to say, "so me disagreeing with him now should really say something."
I think that 'only purpose' is well worthy of comment
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#299I'm really disappointed to see the HN reaction of straight up scoffing at this like it's irreversible and so let's just step on the gas. It's some weird combination of techno-utopianism and nihilism and good old elitism.
I personally scoff at this kind of stuff because it's asking for something no one has the power to give. It's like asking to stop the development of nukes in the 40s and 50s, it's just not gonna happen.
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#300Breaking: the runners lagging behind in the AI race demand openAI to stop right on its tracks; this is very unsafe; it will be much safer once we catch up and openAI is on the rear view mirror.
“AI will probably most likely lead to the end of the world, but in the meantime, there'll be great companies” - Sam Altman But sure, let’s just let this guy who sounds like a madman keep going. What could possibly go wrong?
Oil companies have been knowingly poisoning the globe for their own profit - no probabilities involved - since at least the 70s, probably earlier, and on the flip-side building massive propaganda and influence machines, and further to that end even buying and squashing green patents of all sorts.
If you're going to cry that we should regulate AI because of this actually somewhat comedic quote, well, I hope your comment history is full of general pro-regulation politic