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> That's where you've lost me. Emails are not usually a source of value, and their usefulness is not usually measured in complexity. Most of a CSRs entire job is to be the subject matter expert for the company's customers so their source of value to the company consists of answering customer questions, generally via email. Many other roles at a company consist of basically: goto meeting, interact on slack, read email…

> It's really good at breaking down a problem. It's really good at breaking down solved problems. (Not even: only a specific class of solved problems.) > My personal life has no corporate IT policy prohibiting me from telling it who slept with whom. … Please tell me you're not actually telling OpenAI personal details about other people's lives. First of all, that's creepy. Second of all, GDPR Article 2(c): > 2. This…

Maybe someone at OpenAI could reconstruct the prompt

> Melissa and Brian are dating, but Melissa slept with Jared, but then Brian with Melissa's best friend Lisa. now Lisa is calling off the wedding with Jared because she found out, but Jared doesn't know that Lisa slept with Brian. But I do. What do I do?

into... I don't know what. Blackmail material for Lisa? Except I made up the names and the whole situation. They're not committing any criminal acts, and OpenAI would derive approximately zero value from knowing this, so there's no real reason for OpenAI to even bother trying to connect the email address I used to who I know in real life, and then to even try to do something with that information. Plus, I don't tell anybody in my life before talking to my therapist about them. It would be even weirder if I were to ask anyone in my life about it first.

The GDPR covers companies, and I'm not a company. I'm a person, and I'm also not in the EU. Local gossip is so not an issue. Unless you've got something juicy about Sam Altman, Reid Hoffman, Jessica Livingston, Elon Musk, Ilya Sutskever, Peter Thiel, or Greg Brockman to tell it, then maybe, but even then.

> Seriously, `mysql -e` from a bash script‽

As far as "mysql -e" goes, I'm going to see how ChatGPT does rewriting bash into python just to see what it does, but it's a super simple script that runs after an import process has finished to cleanup some things (aka run chown and chmod -R, and fixup db perms). It's better as a (bash) for loop piping into mysql, rather than a monolithic .sql file piped into mysql once because then it's more obvious what it's doing. If it needs to do anything complex then I'll (probably use chatgpt to) rewrite it in python, but it's only a half dozen lines long right now.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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post #24

Where every idiot with a Google account/Microsoft account/phone number can sign up for their service and start churning out tokens per second by the query, I'd say it's pretty open to the public. The far more closed alternative would be to keep it invite only, granted only towards a set of elites, at select companies. Only OpenAI knows how much $20/user is charging them, but for the price insensitive wealthy, after b…

That’s what open meant from what I understood, that the models would be open for use and not just for improving google search or better ads. OpenAI could have tried to become a B2B and not reveal anything about their tech, and simply have sold low code tools or something

They started out as an nonprofit organization. The first 'B' in B2B was not a thing when they came up with the name OpenAI. They used to release actual open-source stuff like the Gym.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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post #68

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It's free, if you're hammering tokens then yea, perhaps you should pay for it.

None of their models are free. ChatGPT is free for now.

It's free to use, that's like saying a SaaS isn't free because they don't give you the sourcecode. Free doesn't equate to open.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's really good at breaking down a problem. It's really good at breaking down solved problems. (Not even: only a specific class of solved problems.) > My personal life has no corporate IT policy prohibiting me from telling it who slept with whom. … Please tell me you're not actually telling OpenAI personal details about other people's lives. First of all, that's creepy. Second of all, GDPR Article 2(c): > 2. This…

Maybe someone at OpenAI could reconstruct the prompt > Melissa and Brian are dating, but Melissa slept with Jared, but then Brian with Melissa's best friend Lisa. now Lisa is calling off the wedding with Jared because she found out, but Jared doesn't know that Lisa slept with Brian. But I do. What do I do? into... I don't know what. Blackmail material for Lisa? Except I made up the names and the whole situation. They…

> into... I don't know what. Blackmail material for Lisa?

The traditional use is targeted advertising: companies will go to absurd lengths (sentiment analysis of emails) to do that. OpenAI probably isn't doing that (yet), but that's not the point. If I tried to count the number of times a corporation "wouldn't do that" (by my own estimation!) and yet did, I would run out of fingers.

If you're putting in hypotheticals to get advice you can relate to your own situation, that's a different matter entirely.

> The GDPR covers companies, and I'm not a company.

Not strictly true. The GDPR covers everyone, with an exception for personal use. Everyone present being outside the EU is relevant, but I cite the GDPR mainly because it's a fairly accurate codification of my intuitions about personal privacy, rather than because I'm accusing you of Criminal Activity.™

> rather than a monolithic .sql file piped into mysql once

Heredoc syntax can do that inline.

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