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Re: Cerebras-GPT: A Family of Open, Compute-Efficient, Large Language Models

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For the curious, here was the conversation I had: ME: What's another saying similar to: "The cat is out of the bag" or "The genie is out of the bottle"? chatgpt: Another similar saying is "the toothpaste is out of the tube." Like the other two expressions, this phrase conveys the idea that something has been revealed or unleashed, and it cannot be undone or put back into its original state. ME: Can you invent a new p…

I don’t understand why people aren’t more impressed with it clearly understanding and then even inventing idioms. That shows some real intelligence.

Is it so impressive that the “fart left the butt” ? :)

Re: Cerebras-GPT: A Family of Open, Compute-Efficient, Large Language Models

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What we shouldn't is anthropomorphise it too much. While LLMs can express themselves and interact with us in natural language, their minds are very different from ours - they never learned by having an embodied self, and they can't continuously learn and adapt the way we do - once the conversation is over, it's like it never existed unless it's captured for a future training cycle. Right now, their ability to learn i…

Agreed. There are a hundred different kinds of information processing that go into a human-like mind, and we've kinda-sorta built one piece. And there are a lot of pieces that it would neither be sane nor useful to build (eg. internalized emotions), so we might not see an AI with all the pieces for a very long time ("never" is probably too much to hope for).

It's amusing that our first contact with a completely alien intelligence is with one of our own making.

Re: Cerebras-GPT: A Family of Open, Compute-Efficient, Large Language Models

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I'm definitely impressed when I see things like this. This is much more impressive than writing a 5 paragraph nonsense about a 2 sentence prompt.

Is it? There are many mentions of confetti cannons on the web, along with explanations of how they work (saying something like confetti shoots out of the cannon). Chat-GPT just picked a random thing (confetti) and completed the pattern "X out of Y" with the thing confetti comes out of. It's easy. The cereal is out of the box. The helium is out of the balloon. The snow is out of the globe. And it's exactly the one thi…

In a way, this comment perfectly encapsulates why the argument "machines will never replicate human behavior" is so ridiculous. Instead of engaging with the discussion and topic, you chose a position, and then tried to justify it without really thinking about why one example works and the other one doesn't. In doing so you're literally showing that for certain topics, machines are already more capable than some humans.

Re: Cerebras-GPT: A Family of Open, Compute-Efficient, Large Language Models

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This type of article (or press release, or whatever you want to call it) is exactly what makes the future so interesting. The cat is out of the bag, the genie is out of the bottle, the confetti has left the cannon[0]. It's tempting to see a world dominated by Google Bard, ChatGPT, Bing Search, etc. And no doubt, they will be huge players, with services that are far more powerful than anything that can be run on the e…

Serious question: is it typical to describe client-side computing as "on the edge"? I thought running something on the edge referred to running it in close network proximity to the user, rather than users having control and running things themselves.

Because of the ambiguity of the term "on the edge" that is used to refer to both close network proximity and the device closest to the user, as evidenced by this thread, I would suggest to use a new term, at least in the context of A.I. The AI running on the device closest to the user should be called a "terminator".

Re: Cerebras-GPT: A Family of Open, Compute-Efficient, Large Language Models

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Is it? There are many mentions of confetti cannons on the web, along with explanations of how they work (saying something like confetti shoots out of the cannon). Chat-GPT just picked a random thing (confetti) and completed the pattern "X out of Y" with the thing confetti comes out of. It's easy. The cereal is out of the box. The helium is out of the balloon. The snow is out of the globe. And it's exactly the one thi…

The issue I see here is you are doing a worse job at this than ChatGTP. Creating idioms is hard, that is why we left most of them to Shakespeare. - I regularly return cereal to its box. - "helium" and "balloon" have a more awkward rhythm than "confetti" and "cannon". It also loses the connotations of sudden, explosive and exciting change. - Snow & globe I'm not even sure what that means in practice. It has poor prosp…

> "helium" and "balloon" have a more awkward rhythm than "confetti" and "cannon". It also loses the connotations of sudden, explosive and exciting change.

Not only that, but "the confetti has left the cannon" is an alliteration, which makes the phrase even more poetic.

Re: Cerebras-GPT: A Family of Open, Compute-Efficient, Large Language Models

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"The AI effect occurs when onlookers discount the behavior of an artificial intelligence program by arguing that it is not real intelligence." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect

Better that than the opposite effect, to assume that because a system solves a single problem very well, it is intelligent. Is Stockfish intelligent? Is a system with A* pathfinding intelligent? I would define intelligence as the ability to solve a wide variety of novel problems. A system built to be excellent at a single task may be better than humans at that task but still lack "intelligence". We still don't know w…

> Is Stockfish intelligent?

> Is a system with A pathfinding intelligent?*

I'm not sure if we should get stuck on definitions of intelligence.

The fact is that these tools are useful, as are the currently existing AI's. The latter can also pass for humans, in many ways, while the algorithms you mentioned can only pass for humans in very narrow domains. Both can exceed human performance in some ways.

Eventually, AI's may be indistinguishable from human or convince humans that they should be treated differently from "mere" programs and algorithms, and at that point we will have entered a new era, call it what you will.

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After using ChatGPT 4 extensively for a few days, I think we're probably only a few years away from the first generation of truly conversational assistants ala Jarvis in Iron Man. Between LangChain and existing voice recognition software, we've already 95% of the way there, it just needs to be packaged up into a UI/UX that makes sense. These local models are absolutely critical for that to happen though. I'm hitting…

Only a few years? Nobody can predict accurately in years anymore. Feels more like "only a few months" away.

I'm not so confident.

The speed of recent advances may be due to picking low-hanging fruit.

Soon there may not be much low-hanging fruit left.

Re: Cerebras-GPT: A Family of Open, Compute-Efficient, Large Language Models

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This type of article (or press release, or whatever you want to call it) is exactly what makes the future so interesting. The cat is out of the bag, the genie is out of the bottle, the confetti has left the cannon[0]. It's tempting to see a world dominated by Google Bard, ChatGPT, Bing Search, etc. And no doubt, they will be huge players, with services that are far more powerful than anything that can be run on the e…

The cat is out of the bag,The genie is out of the bottle,The confetti has left the cannon,The ship has sailed,The horse has bolted,The toothpaste is out of the tube,The beans have been spilled,The train has left the station,The die is cast,The bell has been run.

The cookie has crumbled.

The mirror has shattered.

The poop has hit the propeller.

Pandora's box has opened.

Re: Cerebras-GPT: A Family of Open, Compute-Efficient, Large Language Models

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I feel like no less than 10 years if the singularity doesn't kick in before that. Hardware and energy isn't progressing as fast as we'd like, and that is the main bottleneck. As in, imagine a world where we actually had the same computing power required to train (not run) GPT-4 in 1s in a phone? That kind of world is way beyond AGI and the cure of cancer IMO. Which is great, because it gives us a very objective goal…

Your comment makes me wonder if it's not a coincidence that as we seem to be the hitting a limit in hardware power that human level intelligence begins to emerge.

Such hardware problems might be overcome with new computer architectures and/or substrates, like DNA computing, quantum computing, etc... Current AI's could help us overcome such limits.

Re: Cerebras-GPT: A Family of Open, Compute-Efficient, Large Language Models

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I'm definitely impressed when I see things like this. This is much more impressive than writing a 5 paragraph nonsense about a 2 sentence prompt.

Is it? There are many mentions of confetti cannons on the web, along with explanations of how they work (saying something like confetti shoots out of the cannon). Chat-GPT just picked a random thing (confetti) and completed the pattern "X out of Y" with the thing confetti comes out of. It's easy. The cereal is out of the box. The helium is out of the balloon. The snow is out of the globe. And it's exactly the one thi…

Like you, I thought these pieces of software and data were little more than statistics-based text generators. But it turns out that this is a Category Mistake.

There was an argument made by Raphaël Millière in a recent Mindscape Podcast [1] with Sean Carroll that finally landed for me. He used the example that human beings are driven to eat and reproduce, so by that argument all humans are just eating and reproducing machines. "Ah! But we developed other capabilities along the way to allow us to be good at that!" And that's the point.

GPT-4, for example, is very very good at producing pleasing and useful output for a given input. It uses a simulated neural net to do that. Why would one assume that on the way toward becoming excellent at that task that a neural net wouldn't also acquire other abilities that we associate with reasoning or cognition? When we test GPT-4 for these things (like Theory of Mind) we actually find them.

"Ah hah!" you say, "Humans are set up to learn from the get go, and machines must be trained from scratch." However if you consider the entirety of our genetic legacy together with our childhoods, those are our equivalent "training" from scratch.

I don't think it can be easily dismissed that we're seeing something significant here. It's not human-level intelligence yet. Part of the reason for that is that human brains are vastly more complex than any LLM at the moment (100s of trillions of "parameters" in LLM-speak, along with other advantages). But we're seeing the emergence of something important.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUJOcVPdDvg

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