GitHub India's entire Engineering team is fired

Post by xiaodai » Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 1:19 AM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #36

satvikpendem wrote: post #2

> It does go against the notion that lower cost of labor places are safer from cuts, though. Interesting, people were talking about remote work meaning that companies will now pay less due to a global talent pool, but it might just go to show that workers are not all fungible with other workers in different countries. It rings of the same fears as outsourcing a few decades ago.

Quality talent has a cost regardless of geography.

Post by beezlebroxxxxxx » Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 1:21 AM UTC

throwayyy479087 wrote: post #27

nirushiv wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Precisely. Especially in India - which is almost as large a time zone offset as you can have. Furthermore, India pays competitively enough that you’re not saving that much money for top talent as compared to e.g Eastern Europe. When I ran engineering teams, the language/dialect barrier between our US mothership and India was much much wider than South American and European devs, even though India is technically the l…

The hardest time I’ve had communicating at work has been with native English speakers from India. They have such a strong accent and such different idioms. Same to some extent with Singlish. The problem is they really are speaking perfectly legal English, with grammar better than mine, but it’s a different dialect. Not true of ESL Indians.

Post by fwungy » Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 1:22 AM UTC

moneywoes wrote: post #31

nirushiv wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Precisely. Especially in India - which is almost as large a time zone offset as you can have. Furthermore, India pays competitively enough that you’re not saving that much money for top talent as compared to e.g Eastern Europe. When I ran engineering teams, the language/dialect barrier between our US mothership and India was much much wider than South American and European devs, even though India is technically the l…

Is eastern Europe the real outsourcing threat?

Post by operatingthetan » Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 1:24 AM UTC

ebiester wrote: post #30

throwayyy479087 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hardest time I’ve had communicating at work has been with native English speakers from India. They have such a strong accent and such different idioms. Same to some extent with Singlish. The problem is they really are speaking perfectly legal English, with grammar better than mine, but it’s a different dialect. Not true of ESL Indians.

I’ve spent long enough in the industry that I am relatively comfortable with many of the accents, I would love a class to exist that teaches non-Indians the dialect.

Post by jojobas » Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 1:27 AM UTC

ebiester wrote: post #30

throwayyy479087 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hardest time I’ve had communicating at work has been with native English speakers from India. They have such a strong accent and such different idioms. Same to some extent with Singlish. The problem is they really are speaking perfectly legal English, with grammar better than mine, but it’s a different dialect. Not true of ESL Indians.

I’ve spent long enough in the industry that I am relatively comfortable with many of the accents, I would love a class to exist that teaches non-Indians the dialect.