Wow, the app is nice.
I subscribe to both Apple and YouTube Music, love them both, and I don't mind having an extra music app on my iPhone.
Apple Music Classical
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#422Is the app bug free and good? I thought to switch from Spotify to Apple music recently and started a trial with Apple music. The music selection is good and the sound quality is good but the client Apple music client for Mac is unbelievably buggy for first-party software. I had to get onto Apple support just to get my account going as it would just sit there constantly syncing. It feels sluggish doing things like adding to playlists, and there are numerous little quality of life bugs like the search box not focussing properly sometimes.
I'm on the fence about the idea of switching now. I guess part of it was that the apps would be significantly better than Spotify.
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#423I would love to see something like this for jazz, which has musicians constantly moving through groups and albums as musicians and composers and writers. Like take "Take Five", one of my favorites. It was written by Paul Desmond for the Dave Brubeck Quartet, with solos by Desmond on alto sax and Joe Morello on drums. Those are all fun pieces of information that I wish I could click through to see more of. Just like c…
Gets even more interesting when you look at things like b sides, alternate takes, and covers. Take 10 was a variant of Take five, released under Desmond's name.
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192kHz is overkill of the overkill, but 10bit, seriously?! That is 1024 levels for the whole dynamic range, you are cutting it down to its 64th fraction man! With classical music where it is not filled up to the level of clipping but silent parts contain plenty of details you really must be joking with 10 bits or perhaps rely on listening experience of rap with through the roof bass and inarticulate jabber, there eve…
> With classical music where it is not filled up to the level of clipping but silent parts contain plenty of details […] And just because the music is silent doesn't mean the recording is: there's one album I have where there is a short rest in the musical work, but they recorded in a church in the country/rural area and seem to have have left the window(s) open, so during the musical stop you can hear birds chirping…
On Pat Metheny's Travels album, there's a live recording of Farmer's Trust. It has birdsong added in by one of his band members (the name escapes me)
For a long time the version in Spotify didn't have these.
In a similar vein, in Vince Guaraldi's Live from Grace Cathedral album, you can hear coughing from the congregants in the background of some songs, notably Theme to Grace. Crush the dynamic range and it disappears
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> Why would anyone want to listen to it then? what would be the point? The acoustic equivalent of a screensaver? I would think they would want to listen to it for the same reason they listen to human generated music. Is your thought here that AI generated art is not art? Is it the nature of the creator that determines the listeners enjoyment? If the music generated by a computer is indistinguishable from human made m…
It's way less complicated than that. Music and art in general belong to the social context that produced them. A lot of our appreciation doesn't really come from the technical prowess of the artist or the music theory behind that, but from the cultural hooks we can find in it. If you want a quick example of what I'm saying, look online for Music for Installations by Brian Eno. It's a "almost-generative-but-not-really…
Totally agree with this, but I think it's very likely we'll see AI-written pop hits. They've basically been churned out factory style for years anyway.
And if that does happen, expect a far more exciting backlash movement, like alternative rock in the 90s was to garbage excesses of the 80s.
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#426Am the only person who finds it completely ridiculous that not even APPLE can launch the iPad version of this app at the same time as their iOS one? I launch it on my iPad (which is hooked to my external dac/amp setup via usb-c) and I see.. This: https://imgur.com/a/cAX0zZA
I’m still upset every time I run into a iPhone-only interface on iPad, but my anger level has gone down somewhat now that I’ve started using Stage Manager more.
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Yes, I’ll join you in pouring one out for Rdio. I listened to, and paid for, Rdio every day for years until Spotify killed it. Rdio allowed users to fulfill simple goals — find music you know and listen to it; find new music and listen to it. The paths to those goals were simple and clear. Turns out it’s hard to make money that way. Thus why, I suppose, Spotify is a cornucopia of manipulative dark patterns.
I use spotify daily to listen to my playlists and find new music regularly. I have not noticed any dark patterns, apart from search on desktop being weird sometimes. What are they?
There was some noise about spotify choosing to recommend "fake" in-house artists who they had to pay less royalties to, but according to this article those concerns were overblown: https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/12/15961416/spotify-fake-art...
honestly, I don't know who to believe about anything anymore, but luckily this particular controversy is pretty low-stakes relative to a number of other current topics.
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#428Not sure if this fixes a problem that has plagued Apple music products since probably day one:
You cannot play an album as it was recorded.
You can't play "The Wall" or "Dark Side of the Moon" or the "Brandenburg Concertos" as a unified piece of work and listen to each in order from start to finish. Apple thinks in terms of songs, not albums.
Albums exist in classical and popular music. Not sure why Apple thinks this way. In a sense, it represents total lack of respect for the artist and their work.
It's like a book reading app not having a way to read a book from start to finish. Imagine if it showed you a massive list of chapters from different books and you had to manually find and order chapters to make-up a unified book.
Windows Media understands albums. My entire CD collection is digitized under WM. I can create playlists that consist of of them and play them that way. To continue with the example, I can add Pink Floyd's albums into a playlist and play them one-by-one, in the order they were recorded.
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#429I would love to see something like this for jazz, which has musicians constantly moving through groups and albums as musicians and composers and writers. Like take "Take Five", one of my favorites. It was written by Paul Desmond for the Dave Brubeck Quartet, with solos by Desmond on alto sax and Joe Morello on drums. Those are all fun pieces of information that I wish I could click through to see more of. Just like c…
Check out roon + quboz and/or tidal -- that's the audiophile route. Roon is just meta-data and presentation. Quboz/Tidal hold the content. Roon's content and interface is fantastic compared to spotify and apple music. It uses third party content (wikipedia, reviews from tivo, maybe others) seemlessly. And it elevates the use of the album art. Also, it allows for album-centric approach to viewing/organizing/listening…
I use this and love it too. I've been using both the Dragonfly DAC/headphone amp (works with iPhones and iPads) as well as RooPiee on several raspberry pis with HifiBerry Digi digital output devices. Installation was very simple, and these add 24bit/192khz roon endpoint capability to my home theater systems.
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This is the way. It’s perfectly acceptable to bounce off a book after five pages. Off a podcast with poor production quality. Off a song after the first measure. Tastes differ, so don’t feel bad if you dislike something the zeitgeist adores.
Back when scarcity was a thing, the act of powering through with media you didn’t initially like was one of the primary ways of maturing your taste and learning to like new things. Only consuming media which hooks you instantly is a good way to achieve the media equivalent of a sugar-only diet. I don’t have an answer for this to be honest, it’s just an observation.
See, were this true, my mother (who didn’t have the internet at all) would have a fine appreciation for country music and dancing. Because those were mostly all she had while growing up; she had plenty of time to learn appreciation for both.
Obviously she didn’t. My father in turn never picked up a love for the beetles nor reading. So, while appealing to our lamentations about “kids these days”, your hypothesis is flawed.
People, even in times of media scarcity, still developed loves and hates. Evolving your tastes is much more intentional than just not having a choice.