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Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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They do and it is absurd. I bought Win11 Pro from here for about $20, the price has since gone up a bit: https://www.vip-urcdkey.com/key/microsoft-windows-11-pro-oem...

This does not look at all legitimate

I’ve purchased a handful of keys over the years. It’s legit.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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I feel like I'm on crazy pills when I complain about these things and all the other intrusions Windows pops up at me every time I use the operating system... Yet, the people who use it (mostly gamers), seem to think it's all fine and the operating system is great.

If you’re a gamer, how do you interact with the computer? You launch Steam, see a bunch of ads, launch Epic Game Store or GOG Galaxy and see a bunch of ads, so why wouldn’t you see ads in the start menu? Hell, you have to log in to an account for the “GeForce Experience”. Just to keep your graphics card drivers automatically updated. As soon as you’re in a game, the game is full-screen. You’re not switching apps, you…

You're right. Everyone keeps whining "privacy and usability" this and "I already paid for the OS" that. To them, I say: shut up! Don't these people know that computers are only about consuming content? We should be advocating for an even greater ad-filled future for everyone to enjoy

Why aren't we seeing ads in context menus? Why can't I yell "Burger King" into my mic every 10 minutes while streaming to get access to higher bitrates? Why hasn't Microsoft put ads on the BSOD? Why am I not paying a microtransaction every time I start up my computer to get it to skip an ad and boot faster? We are still missing out on some serious advertising potential! Every eyeball that isn't looking at a corporate logo is selfishly wasting time

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Don't they still charge a $100+ license for Windows? I have Windows 10 for games, but I haven't booted into it in months since Steam has been fantastic on Linux (relative to it's past, it has some ways to go). I'll be the classic Linux desktop optimist: the improvements over the last four years along have been fantastic and I really hope for a future when it can meet everyone's needs. My OS shouldn't advertise to me.…

>It shouldn't sell my data, or shouldn't do anything like that. It especially shouldn't harass me to log into the owning company's account

Consumers didn't react harshly enough after the prism leaks. Microsoft has gotten the inch and is taking a mile.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Every couple of weeks Windows shows a FULL SCREEN advertisement during boot/login which requires several clicks to get rid of. They advertise everything starting from Microsoft Accounts, OneDrive, MS Edge ( https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/11/15/windows-10-is-now-n... ) , Windows 11 ( https://mspoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/167013949... ) , and a long etc. This is not a small advert in a small corner of…

It also infuriates me that they won't let you actually say no. It's always "remind me later" or "skip for now" or "try again in 3 days".

What has gotten into the minds of these people? Why do they think this is at all acceptable?

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Every couple of weeks Windows shows a FULL SCREEN advertisement during boot/login which requires several clicks to get rid of. They advertise everything starting from Microsoft Accounts, OneDrive, MS Edge ( https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/11/15/windows-10-is-now-n... ) , Windows 11 ( https://mspoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/167013949... ) , and a long etc. This is not a small advert in a small corner of…

>What on Earth could they possibly do now to top that ?

Autoplaying videos with sound

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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On the fresh install of Windows I do see some ads and ad-adjacent things. But once I disable all of them, that's it. No more. I haven't seen anything at all like this since install day a couple years back. My guess is that people aren't going through and disabling everything. Also, people aren't using piholes which are probably blocking everything that can't be disabled.

>On the fresh install of Windows I do see some ads and ad-adjacent things.

I'm curious, did you pay for the installer or did it come bundled with a device?

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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They will likely just discontinue Windows 10 to force everybody onto 11 in good time; like they tried to do with Windows 7. I'm on Windows 10 at the moment and no way am I upgrading. From what I've seen and heard so far, 11 is an absolute festering nightmare.

Windows 10 support ends on October 2025, as of things stand now.

And that's fine with me. The only reason I keep windows around is because I use VSTs in digital audio software. I don't need to connect it to the internet so there's no security issues.

In maybe 5 years I will have to think about what I do with it all...

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Every couple of weeks Windows shows a FULL SCREEN advertisement during boot/login which requires several clicks to get rid of. They advertise everything starting from Microsoft Accounts, OneDrive, MS Edge ( https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/11/15/windows-10-is-now-n... ) , Windows 11 ( https://mspoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/167013949... ) , and a long etc. This is not a small advert in a small corner of…

For me, it was worse. It happened every time I booted Windows because I only used it occasionally to play games.

After I select Windows in the boot menu, I'd spend like ten minutes waiting for Windows Update to complete. Then I have to click through a series of full screen ads and prompts to disable my privacy settings, which is getting increasingly difficult with all the dark patterns thrown in after every new release. It really shows a lack of respect for the user, taking my computer hostage while I resist their attempts to enable numerous privacy-invading settings that I declined over and over and over.

Over the years, this made me distrust Windows so much that I removed anything critical off of it. I removed my password manager, deleted my browsing data, and made sure to remove anything tied to an online account except Steam.

Then I finally had enough and moved my games over to Linux. So far, the experience is good and I'm glad that WINE is going through active improvements.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

#39

I feel like I'm on crazy pills when I complain about these things and all the other intrusions Windows pops up at me every time I use the operating system... Yet, the people who use it (mostly gamers), seem to think it's all fine and the operating system is great.

I only use Windows for games, and I don't think its fine, which is why I only use it for games. And its like another commenter said - you also have to deal with Nvidia's trash application, all the game stores, Discord (which I swear has more bullshit popups pushing whatever monetization every time it updates). I just try to ignore all that crap as much as possible. Any time I'm forced to do something more than cut over to the PC on my KVM and launch the game I want to play, I cringe.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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post #28

On the fresh install of Windows I do see some ads and ad-adjacent things. But once I disable all of them, that's it. No more. I haven't seen anything at all like this since install day a couple years back. My guess is that people aren't going through and disabling everything. Also, people aren't using piholes which are probably blocking everything that can't be disabled.

Yes, it is the user who is wrong. :D
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