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EU Commission doesn't understand what's written in its own chat control bill

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Re: EU Commission doesn't understand what's written in its own chat control bill

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The purpose of most eurocrats is to write long reports to other eurocrats justifying their time and expenses. It's normal to see people claim authority on things they have very little idea of. The recently-caught MEP who took bribes was apparently in charge of science and tech, AI & blockchain , and the things she would say in public were astounding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylCxsN3qlkU?t=5m30s

Re: EU Commission doesn't understand what's written in its own chat control bill

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I wish I could believe that the individual is just a useful idiot. Part of that rhetoric mostly works in US too, where I kinda place the blame on the old guard for not understanding technology, where it is not exactly given that they do not.

edit: From where they sit ( position where they have to champion this effort ), it is just not part of the equation that is relevant to them so any means to get public on your side even with comments about sniffing is justified. HN will ridicule it, but a lot of people will swallow it wholesale.

Re: EU Commission doesn't understand what's written in its own chat control bill

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That's indeed quite worrying, this plus the American Cloud Act means online privacy is at risk..

I wonder why Mullvad doesn't complain about the American Cloud Act, or did they already? Mullvad employees could be extradited to the US if they do not comply (opening up your servers for example), since it's a bilateral agreement with the EU

It's a pretty dark era ahead of us: https://www.justice.gov/criminal-oia/cloud-act-resources

Re: EU Commission doesn't understand what's written in its own chat control bill

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The purpose of most eurocrats is to write long reports to other eurocrats justifying their time and expenses. It's normal to see people claim authority on things they have very little idea of. The recently-caught MEP who took bribes was apparently in charge of science and tech, AI & blockchain , and the things she would say in public were astounding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylCxsN3qlkU?t=5m30s

Making cynical blanket statements about large groups of people doesn't do anything to address any kind of issue, and instead normalizes negative behaviors both within that group.

Within the group, the more people believe that it's the norm, the less social impetus there is to address individual bad actors.

Outside that group, people are less likely to treat people fairly if they are perceived to be part of a group of bad actors. How is someone making a positive difference supposed to navigate an environment where everyone assumes they are bad actors?

Finally, pointing to a single case of someone who was arrested for corruption among literal thousands of bureaucrats does not make a compelling case.

Re: EU Commission doesn't understand what's written in its own chat control bill

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The purpose of most eurocrats is to write long reports to other eurocrats justifying their time and expenses. It's normal to see people claim authority on things they have very little idea of. The recently-caught MEP who took bribes was apparently in charge of science and tech, AI & blockchain , and the things she would say in public were astounding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylCxsN3qlkU?t=5m30s

Making cynical blanket statements about large groups of people doesn't do anything to address any kind of issue, and instead normalizes negative behaviors both within that group. Within the group, the more people believe that it's the norm, the less social impetus there is to address individual bad actors. Outside that group, people are less likely to treat people fairly if they are perceived to be part of a group of…

i m not within that group -- very few people are within that group and the vast majority are unelected and unaccountable to us. I m not the only one complaining about the brussels bubble. dont try to shift the blame on us

my experince with eurocracy is from projects i ve participated in

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Making cynical blanket statements about large groups of people doesn't do anything to address any kind of issue, and instead normalizes negative behaviors both within that group. Within the group, the more people believe that it's the norm, the less social impetus there is to address individual bad actors. Outside that group, people are less likely to treat people fairly if they are perceived to be part of a group of…

i m not within that group -- very few people are within that group and the vast majority are unelected and unaccountable to us. I m not the only one complaining about the brussels bubble. dont try to shift the blame on us my experince with eurocracy is from projects i ve participated in

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