Cool - I have been looking forward to this since the first rumors of it possibly being a thing started to circulate.
Apple Music Classical
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#362Oh my, 192kHz/24bit. One would expect Apple would not need snake oil to sell their product. To those not so familiar with audio DSP: 192kHz and 24bit make perfect sense if you intend to mangle the audio a LOT afterwards. At 192kHz, you can pitch shift your audio down by two octaves and still have frequency content in the entire CD spectrum. Very useful, and common, for movie effects. And 24bit, or better even 32bit,…
192kHz is overkill of the overkill, but 10bit, seriously?! That is 1024 levels for the whole dynamic range, you are cutting it down to its 64th fraction man! With classical music where it is not filled up to the level of clipping but silent parts contain plenty of details you really must be joking with 10 bits or perhaps rely on listening experience of rap with through the roof bass and inarticulate jabber, there eve…
Even in "loud" music 10 or 12 bit is definitely noticeable. Many modern samplers include a legacy mode meant to mimic the grungy sound of old 10 or 12 bit sampling hardware. It might not be noticeable to non-musicians, but anyone who makes music will hear the difference. Even if you turn off other features that are usually included in tandem, like dac emulators.
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#363Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've used Idagio for 6 months. They have a reasonable interface, good performances and sound quality, but their catalog is indeed limited. There are hundreds of performances of the same well-known works, but there's not (very) much beyond it. I've discovered about 100 fairly unknown composers through YouTube that I consider quite good, but many of them are missing from Idagio, or are listed with one or two works. The…
> That could never change. Trying to revert that situtation was my bet. The 20th century was a golden age for recorded music. Maybe there is no coming back but I don't think (or I didn't think then) that streaming services are in a very strong position in the long run: consumers like them because the current deal is that you pay a single subscription and you have access to basically all the music (a very nice proposi…
>The 20th century was a golden age for recorded music. Maybe there is no coming back
With AI generated music on the horizon I think we have definitely peaked.
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#364I wonder why "applemusic.apple" and not just "music.apple", is it a trademark thing? The latter is certainly more cleaner
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#365Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can't speak for generated compositions but midi data is played however your software is programmed to do so, which could include adding imperfections.
What I'm saying: take a classical score as is and input it perfectly as a midi file and you are guaranteed to have a terrible output. Yet on paper, it's perfectly rendered as the composer wrote it. This is why the act of playing music by a human is called a "performance", an "interpretation" in some languages. The musician is not just playing a score exactly as it is written, the musician gives a part of his/her into…
And you don't think AI can't be programmed to "interpret" too? You haven't been paying attention much, in the last few weeks in particular
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX9J4RIsvOA
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#366Just want to point out that the human hearing range goes up to 28khz, not 20khz as is commonly claimed.
I can still notice a very subtle difference when I downsample 96khz to 48khz. It used to be more pronounced when I was younger, but I always thought that was the placebo effect. It wasn't until I went and read the Wikipedia article on the human hearing range that I realized that I wasn't imagining it.
Basically, music that correctly reproduces up to 28khz has a sparkle effect that's also very noticeable in a live concert hall.
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#367> There’s no separate subscription for Apple Music Classical. It’s included at no extra cost with all Apple Music subscriptions except the Apple Music Voice Plan. Bit of a missed opportunity here to provide a cheaper subscription just for Classical. Apple could have captured Spotify users who would be willing to pay a small premium for a nicer classical UX, but would be unwilling to take out an additional full-priced…
I am a student with not a lot of money and I really love classical music. I don't have to pay for Spotify due to Spotify family. Also, I really don't like the cliché that classical music is mostly for the well-earning élite. Classical music is just great music. Totally agree with you. Like the idea of a seperate app; when I am streaming my favorite music on Spotify, it's sometimes weird to listen to some piece of con…
While not exactly the same, your school (college?) may have access to the Naxos library, which may allow you to stream that for free (requiring login through your school library).
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#368Earlier quoted context omitted.
I want that for pop music, too! I don't understand why Apple (and other companies) don't get that there are users who want to slice and dice music in this way for every genre. When I go looking for "No-one is to blame" by Howard Jones, I want the version from "Dream Into Action" not the crappy radio remake he did with Phil Collins on the drums. When I listen to "Leave it" by Yes, I may want to make the connection tha…
One impediment is the pop industry doesn't organize it that way. Classical does, so PrimePhonic/Apple didn't have to invent a new taxonomy to make a classical service. Apple and Spotify could use their market power to make labels backfill a more complex data format for pop.
...or, they could pay actual human beings instead of just relying on the crap data that labels provide.
Although I guess that in today's world, I could just say "use AI to figure it out."
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#369I would love to see something like this for jazz, which has musicians constantly moving through groups and albums as musicians and composers and writers. Like take "Take Five", one of my favorites. It was written by Paul Desmond for the Dave Brubeck Quartet, with solos by Desmond on alto sax and Joe Morello on drums. Those are all fun pieces of information that I wish I could click through to see more of. Just like c…
I second this! Couldn't agree more. In all honesty, some of the best parts of jazz lie in its history. For example listening to Clifford Brown might make you think "huh this is neat". But understanding his relationship to gillespie, early death, etc, puts his career in a unique and fascinating frame.
+1 on Clifford Brown. I think he wrote some of the most brilliant bop melodies and his death was probably one of the more tragic that music ever saw
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#370Strange feelings looking at this... This is almost exactly the product I failed to get into YC with back in 2017... All the same ideas as far as the UX goes with one main difference: the business model. I wanted to apply the Steam business model where people would actually buy album again (and not tracks a la iTunes). The issue is that while it's nice to have a UX tailored for classical, this won't likely help the cl…
For actual classical musicians, I'm not sure how much they would ever realistically make off of album sales. Most are funded through donations AFAIK and then through ticket sales. There's a reason why almost no one in the classical scene cares about piracy aside from maybe sheet music (even then, the photocopier is used pretty heavily).