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Re: Show HN: A fully open-source (Apache 2.0)implementation of llama

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Post by AmuVarma »

sp332 wrote: post #9
AmuVarma wrote: post #8

Llama by FB is under a non-commercial license not a GPL license, so I assume you are using a different base model, what model is that?

This isn't a new model, it's just new code.

ah i see so Its just a new way to run inference on the non commercial model

Re: Show HN: A fully open-source (Apache 2.0)implementation of llama

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Post by AmuVarma »

sp332 wrote: post #9
AmuVarma wrote: post #8

Llama by FB is under a non-commercial license not a GPL license, so I assume you are using a different base model, what model is that?

This isn't a new model, it's just new code.

So who cares if its GPL licensed it can never be put into production

Re: Show HN: A fully open-source (Apache 2.0)implementation of llama

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Post by Ciantic »

barefeg wrote: post #11

But aren’t the weights still not for commercial use?

That's what I thought too, the source code was not an issue so much as that.

What we need is some sort of "Large Language Model at Home" (like SETI@home was) that could crowdsource the creation of the model which would be free to use.

Re: Show HN: A fully open-source (Apache 2.0)implementation of llama

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Post by ftxbro »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #7

Bs. Prevents meaningful academic..... How the hell does agpl prevent academic use? Commercial use sure because agpl follows 4 freedoms and commercial often wants to take someone else's work, slap their brand without acknowledging the original work. That and the downstream is often closed source for "business reasons" which causes their users to not enjoy the fruits of the first party's licensing. Where does academia…

I'm not saying this is how it should be, but a lot of the author lists of published papers on scaling properties of large language models have been employees in research divisions within big tech companies or academics holding dual positions with those companies and with their university.

> Where does academia come into it? Are researchers now keeping everything under wraps for "shareholders interests"? Isn't academia supposed to be open culture from the start without any restrictions so what am I missing or are they mixing two unrelated things?

Yeah academia was never perfect, but it's becoming more and more like you describe. It's been happening for a while and that's a whole other thing.

Re: Show HN: A fully open-source (Apache 2.0)implementation of llama

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Post by barefeg »

Ciantic wrote: post #14
barefeg wrote: post #11

But aren’t the weights still not for commercial use?

That's what I thought too, the source code was not an issue so much as that. What we need is some sort of "Large Language Model at Home" (like SETI@home was) that could crowdsource the creation of the model which would be free to use.

Right, so sort of like https://github.com/bigscience-workshop/petals but for the training phase. I suppose different training runs could be proposed via a RFC type of procedure. Then it’s not only the open source model maintainers that put the effort, but also supporters of the project can “donate” their hardware resources.

Re: Show HN: A fully open-source (Apache 2.0)implementation of llama

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Post by woodson »

AmuVarma wrote: post #13
sp332 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a new model, it's just new code.

So who cares if its GPL licensed it can never be put into production

You probably should care if you integrate the inference code in other software packages that aren’t GPL licensed.
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