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Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by rejectfinite »

MavisBacon wrote: post #140
Aidevah wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Why would anyone want to listen to it then? what would be the point? The acoustic equivalent of a screensaver? Isn't that exactly how music is consumed nowadays by most people? They put something when driving, cooking, doing homework, etc. It's used mainly for mood/focus and they're not exactly paying close attention to it the same way one would to a audiobook of, say, an abstract algebra textbook. Especially consid…

>I suspect focused, attentive listening only makes up a small minority of the total streams The inverse is likely true with the classical audience. Just like with jazz, although there will be a portion of users seeking “vibey jazz” sort of playlists to use in the background while working, the majority of jazz fans consume jazz as albums and are still concerned with things like personnel and liner notes, perhaps even…

There is 45k streaming the lofi girl on youtube now. Maybe not jazz but simmilar typ, also mostly background music.

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Post by bmmayer1 »

mbo wrote: post #173

> There’s no separate subscription for Apple Music Classical. It’s included at no extra cost with all Apple Music subscriptions except the Apple Music Voice Plan. Bit of a missed opportunity here to provide a cheaper subscription just for Classical. Apple could have captured Spotify users who would be willing to pay a small premium for a nicer classical UX, but would be unwilling to take out an additional full-priced…

Beyond pricing, what's their strategy here trying to unbundle music? Are they going to release a different music app for every genre? If it's just a classical app, does that mean I now have to use two apps to switch between music based on genre? What benefit is there other than slightly better UX which presumably could be bundled in an existing app.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by dagw »

augustl wrote: post #10

Maybe we'll finally get a music app where classical music isn't categorized by Album/Artist :) Classical doesn't really fit that well into a schema, since you have composers, performers, and then under performers there's soloist, or multiple soloists, which orchestra, which conductor, and so on. And it would also be nice to have things like "show most popular recordings of Beethoven's 5th".

Maybe we'll finally get a music app where classical

There have been plenty of third party apps built on top of Spotify that have offered this.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by newaccount74 »

imwithstoopid wrote: post #206
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #25

This looks ok, but I can't be the only person suffering Content Fatigue. Between access to infinite music, infinite movies and TV, infinite gaming, and infinite news - and that's just leisure - I'm not sure how much time I have left for a finite life.

well good news...you can actually listen to pretty much "all" of symphonic music! yeah there is new stuff, but when we speak of "classical music", we're really talking about long-dead people Dvorak isn't going to be composing any new works, you can actually listen to everything Dvorak ever created and then you're "done"

But people make new recordings all the time!

I could listen to different recordings of Canto Ostinato all day, it sounds like a completely different piece if someone else plays it.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by visarga »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #25

This looks ok, but I can't be the only person suffering Content Fatigue. Between access to infinite music, infinite movies and TV, infinite gaming, and infinite news - and that's just leisure - I'm not sure how much time I have left for a finite life.

Here come the infinite AI contents to top it off.

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Post by lifefeed »

I would love to see something like this for jazz, which has musicians constantly moving through groups and albums as musicians and composers and writers.

Like take "Take Five", one of my favorites. It was written by Paul Desmond for the Dave Brubeck Quartet, with solos by Desmond on alto sax and Joe Morello on drums. Those are all fun pieces of information that I wish I could click through to see more of.

Just like classical music, it's not impossible to represent this with a generic interface, but it would benefit by something more geared to how jazz fans like to browse.

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Post by n0tahacker »

mbo wrote: post #173

> There’s no separate subscription for Apple Music Classical. It’s included at no extra cost with all Apple Music subscriptions except the Apple Music Voice Plan. Bit of a missed opportunity here to provide a cheaper subscription just for Classical. Apple could have captured Spotify users who would be willing to pay a small premium for a nicer classical UX, but would be unwilling to take out an additional full-priced…

I am a student with not a lot of money and I really love classical music. I don't have to pay for Spotify due to Spotify family. Also, I really don't like the cliché that classical music is mostly for the well-earning élite. Classical music is just great music. Totally agree with you. Like the idea of a seperate app; when I am streaming my favorite music on Spotify, it's sometimes weird to listen to some piece of contemporary music and then a classical piece.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by tjpnz »

876978095789789 wrote: post #3
coldtea wrote: post #2

Waiting for the destined to be equally popular "Apple Music Polka"

Did you read the announcement: > Why a separate classical app? > Classical music often involves multiple musicians recording works that have been recorded many times before and are referred to by different names. For example, from the formal Beethoven’s Piano Sonata No. 14 to the popular byname of Moonlight Sonata, or in multiple languages, such as Mondschein Sonata in German. Such complexities mean that classical mu…

>a beautiful interface

We'll be the judge of that.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by oriolid »

easyThrowaway wrote: post #211
oriolid wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The acoustic equivalent of a screensaver? It already exists, and is known as elevator music or muzak. I can certainly see the value in generating endless copyright-free background music, because so many human effort has been put into composing it already.

Sure, but the OP point was specifically about Classic Music, not incidental soundscapes.

I know, I wasn't the one who brought up the "acoustic equivalent of a screensaver".

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by netrus »

bmmayer1 wrote: post #222
mbo wrote: post #173

> There’s no separate subscription for Apple Music Classical. It’s included at no extra cost with all Apple Music subscriptions except the Apple Music Voice Plan. Bit of a missed opportunity here to provide a cheaper subscription just for Classical. Apple could have captured Spotify users who would be willing to pay a small premium for a nicer classical UX, but would be unwilling to take out an additional full-priced…

Beyond pricing, what's their strategy here trying to unbundle music? Are they going to release a different music app for every genre? If it's just a classical app, does that mean I now have to use two apps to switch between music based on genre? What benefit is there other than slightly better UX which presumably could be bundled in an existing app.

Wildly different meta data and needs for search. With classical music, it's a standard use case to search music composed by X. For most other genres, no one ever searches for a composer. On the other hand, there will hundreds of performances of the same piece, and listeners will want to scroll though them, instead of just seeing the 1-3 most famous renditions of a song. Or you want songs from a specific conductor or with a specific solist. All of this makes classical music very distinct, while search pattern for most other genres are kind of similar.
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