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Launch HN: Play.ht (YC W23) – Generate and clone voices from 20 seconds of audio

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Re: Launch HN: Play.ht (YC W23) – Generate and clone voices from 20 seconds of audio

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Post by bunnyswipe_com »

nico wrote: post #378
jeroenhd wrote: post #54

Listening to the demos I'm not entirely convinced by this ( https://playground.play.ht/listen/189 was pretty funny). I wonder if this company will end up taking down (and subsequently pricing out most people using this tech for fun) arbitrary voice generation just like its competitors have so far. Going to the demo page and hearing a random snippet of Musk-worship was pretty weird. Out of all audio tracks to place at…

> ( https://playground.play.ht/listen/189 was pretty funny) Warning to others wanting to click on the link: damn that was creepy.

sounds from hell

Re: Launch HN: Play.ht (YC W23) – Generate and clone voices from 20 seconds of audio

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Post by anoonmoose »

mikrotikker wrote: post #269
anoonmoose wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you said: "This sort of technology literally makes it impossible to trust anything electronic." we said: "No, because there is also technology that makes it possible to trust anything electronic with very nearly 100% reliability. But no one uses it" I think your first statement is both technically wrong and generally wrong. Electronic trust is a solved problem...it's just that right now, it's really not as big a deal…

You can short circuit all that shit by merely compromising the device.

trusted execution is also a thing, just largely unused/underutilized. in my opinion hardware/software platforms can be designed such that the only real exploit would be for someone to insert an attack vector into the hardware (IC) itself, which is nation-state level work. again, possible but not used in practice because of the perceived risk-reward tradeoff at the moment.

Re: Launch HN: Play.ht (YC W23) – Generate and clone voices from 20 seconds of audio

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Post by thisOtterBeGood »

Natfan wrote: post #186

This is already being used for scams. https://playground.play.ht/listen/1079 ( https://archive.ph/HKjue ) How exactly do you expect to combat this type of content?

Same: https://playground.play.ht/listen/2002 (https://archive.ph/wip/hsaqU)

Re: Launch HN: Play.ht (YC W23) – Generate and clone voices from 20 seconds of audio

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Post by Frondo »

perlwle wrote: post #315
Dowwie wrote: post #118

I recommend you immediately add identity verification (state-issued identification verification), set up appropriate secrets store for PII, and audit trail EVERYTHING your users are doing, storing the contents in a secure location. Yesterday. This service will be used to harm others, shortly. I do think that there are exciting, honest things that can be done with this service but you need to set up some friction for…

A couple in Canada were reportedly scammed out of $21,000 after getting a call from an AI-generated voice pretending to be their son. https://www.businessinsider.com/couple-canada-reportedly-los...

There's a podcast I listen to sometimes called "The Perfect Scam," sponsored by the AARP but, I suspect, is intended more for the kids of elderly people who are more at risk for these kinds of things:

https://www.aarp.org/podcasts/the-perfect-scam/

They have quite a few stories about "virtual kidnappings" and interview the people involved -- it's quite interesting, and has given me a lot of insight into how typical it would be for people to hear panic and react with panic...precisely how these scams are intended to go.

Re: Launch HN: Play.ht (YC W23) – Generate and clone voices from 20 seconds of audio

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Post by jprete »

owlbynight wrote: post #379
hammadh wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The intention for this playground was to let people try the model. We actually have auto moderation on the user facing platform ( https://play.ht/ ) and malicious text gets blocked and the user get flagged.

Except this post is 8 hours old and I'm still able to view this link.

Another 8 hours and I can still see it too.

Re: Launch HN: Play.ht (YC W23) – Generate and clone voices from 20 seconds of audio

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Post by jprete »

rcme wrote: post #356
gwerbret wrote: post #319

Given the very ( very , VERY) obvious concerns associated with malicious deployment of this tech, and the minimal/largely ineffectual countermeasures deployed by the founders, what surprises me the most is that YC gave this startup its stamp of approval. It used to be that they offered at least a basic sanity check to anything they funded. Is this now getting lost as they scale up their funding operations?

The constant worry about malicious deployment is so tired in my opinion. The technology to clone voices exists. Your trust is audio recording should already be shaken. Trying to hobble this product on the grounds of "it's dangerous" just serves to limit creativity.

The technology never should have existed in the first place. Adding to it is still adding additional harm.

Re: Launch HN: Play.ht (YC W23) – Generate and clone voices from 20 seconds of audio

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Post by SamBam »

owlbynight wrote: post #379
hammadh wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The intention for this playground was to let people try the model. We actually have auto moderation on the user facing platform ( https://play.ht/ ) and malicious text gets blocked and the user get flagged.

Except this post is 8 hours old and I'm still able to view this link.

17 hours old, still there.

Re: Launch HN: Play.ht (YC W23) – Generate and clone voices from 20 seconds of audio

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Post by SamBam »

jeroenhd wrote: post #210
yreg wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The demo page says 'Recently generated', you have listened to the last snippet someone made.

I know the demo page was user generated. My Musk comment referred to this page: https://play.ht/ultra-realistic-voices/

Two(!) of them were about Musk.

Re: Launch HN: Play.ht (YC W23) – Generate and clone voices from 20 seconds of audio

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Post by ljlolel »

mywacaday wrote: post #416
hammadh wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, we intended the playground to be merely a testing tool for the new model we're building. We'll improve based on your feedback!

I noticed that when i put in the following text from the BBC as a test and it pronounces 2008 as "two thousand eight" but I believe most people would pronounce it as "two thousand and eight" Great work A billionaire's son, who fled to Yemen within hours of the death of a student in London 15 years ago, has admitted his involvement to the BBC. The body of Martine Vik Magnussen, 23, was discovered under rubble in a Gre…

Pretty sure I would say two thousand eight?

Re: Launch HN: Play.ht (YC W23) – Generate and clone voices from 20 seconds of audio

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Post by mikrotikker »

anoonmoose wrote: post #422
mikrotikker wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can short circuit all that shit by merely compromising the device.

trusted execution is also a thing, just largely unused/underutilized. in my opinion hardware/software platforms can be designed such that the only real exploit would be for someone to insert an attack vector into the hardware (IC) itself, which is nation-state level work. again, possible but not used in practice because of the perceived risk-reward tradeoff at the moment.

Yea until the next Vault7 leaks and the "state level work" is accessible to all.
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