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Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by EntrePrescott »

> "For example, from the formal Beethoven’s Piano Sonata No. 14 to the popular byname of Moonlight Sonata, or in multiple languages, such as Mondschein Sonata in German."

"Mondschein Sonata"? WTF Apple? Not only is that factually wrong, but… that's not even German - neither as a whole, nor the "Sonata" nor the space (Deppenleerzeichen). Maybe Apple should ask someone else than Siri or a marketing intern to write texts with factual claims outside of their fields. The actual popular German sobriquet for that Sonata is "Mondscheinsonate". As for "Sonata", that's part of the (Italian) title of its first published edition: "Sonata quasi una Fantasia".

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by wiredfool »

pell wrote: post #117
nordsieck wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wanted to apply the Steam business model where people would actually buy album again (and not tracks a la iTunes). Could you expand on this a bit? I am very much a track oriented person. Why do you think it would be better to force/encourage people to buy albums?

I don't know what OP's business model looked like exactly. However, classical music is often composed and performed as full works, such as symphonies, operas, and concertos, rather than individual songs or tracks. These works are often intended to be listened to in their entirety and are structured in a way that builds upon and develops themes throughout the piece. Another problem is that the way classical music is d…

Listening to a Missa Solemnis that's broken up into about 5 tracks per movement.

There are gaps between the tracks.

Sigh. Gapless playback should be a hard default.

(edit, and it's not a stylistic choice, some of the gaps are within words)

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by mbo »

> There’s no separate subscription for Apple Music Classical. It’s included at no extra cost with all Apple Music subscriptions except the Apple Music Voice Plan.

Bit of a missed opportunity here to provide a cheaper subscription just for Classical. Apple could have captured Spotify users who would be willing to pay a small premium for a nicer classical UX, but would be unwilling to take out an additional full-priced music subscription. Inevitably some Classical only users would end up migrating entirely to Apple Music to amalgamate their subscription costs.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by hotpotamus »

troad wrote: post #124
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #25

This looks ok, but I can't be the only person suffering Content Fatigue. Between access to infinite music, infinite movies and TV, infinite gaming, and infinite news - and that's just leisure - I'm not sure how much time I have left for a finite life.

Run with the assumption that everything is always infinitely available, and become judicious with your attention. Boring podcast? Don't think twice, delete it. Good TV show, but not amazing? Move on, there's better out there. You won't even remember its name in a year. Book dragging on in the middle? Skip ahead. Every now and again you'll find something you want to give a chance to, and for those things do slow down,…

As a child, I did the same thing with my family because video games were much more entertaining. As an adult, this hasn't changed all that much.

Re: Apple Music Classical

#175

Post by madeofpalk »

echelon wrote: post #48
lelag wrote: post #24

Strange feelings looking at this... This is almost exactly the product I failed to get into YC with back in 2017... All the same ideas as far as the UX goes with one main difference: the business model. I wanted to apply the Steam business model where people would actually buy album again (and not tracks a la iTunes). The issue is that while it's nice to have a UX tailored for classical, this won't likely help the cl…

> But unfortunately, this wont change the fact that the classical recording industry is dying and that the sector is only surviving thanks to public and private subsidies. Bet $100 that all classical music will be AI generated (synthesized and composed) in just three years. Supply side will be infinite.

!remind me 3 years

You could make the argument that charting pop music will be AI generated, or Spotify will be pushing AI generated music through all their popular playlists to avoid paying music royalties - these don't seem to be too far from what happens currently.

But to bet that some of the fussiest and most discerning music listeners would prefer this seems foolish.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by anecdotal1 »

EntrePrescott wrote: post #171

> "For example, from the formal Beethoven’s Piano Sonata No. 14 to the popular byname of Moonlight Sonata, or in multiple languages, such as Mondschein Sonata in German." "Mondschein Sonata"? WTF Apple? Not only is that factually wrong, but… that's not even German - neither as a whole, nor the "Sonata" nor the space (Deppenleerzeichen). Maybe Apple should ask someone else than Siri or a marketing intern to write text…

Apple didn't write this, the company they bought this app from did

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by rodelrod »

cannam wrote: post #13
augustl wrote: post #10

Maybe we'll finally get a music app where classical music isn't categorized by Album/Artist :) Classical doesn't really fit that well into a schema, since you have composers, performers, and then under performers there's soloist, or multiple soloists, which orchestra, which conductor, and so on. And it would also be nice to have things like "show most popular recordings of Beethoven's 5th".

There is the slightly awkwardly-named idagio ( https://www.idagio.com/ ), which has been doing the same kind of thing for a while. (I'm not well placed to compare them, since I let my own idagio subscription lapse a couple of years ago due to lack of income, I never tried Primephonic before Apple bought it, and I don't have an iPhone so can't try the Apple service... aside from all that, I'm right in the target marke…

I was going to chime in with "also Primephonic" and learned that Apple bought them a couple of years ago and this basically is Primephonic.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Post by User23 »

lelag wrote: post #24

Strange feelings looking at this... This is almost exactly the product I failed to get into YC with back in 2017... All the same ideas as far as the UX goes with one main difference: the business model. I wanted to apply the Steam business model where people would actually buy album again (and not tracks a la iTunes). The issue is that while it's nice to have a UX tailored for classical, this won't likely help the cl…

Has the sector ever survived other than thanks to public and private subsidies? Even in its heyday it was funded by Princes and Bishops and so on. Maybe the right approach is to lean into that. There are a lot of very wealthy people in China for example and many of them love classical music.

It is sadly true however that the West increasingly appears to have no interest in maintaining its own culture.

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