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The ongoing fight against GPL enforcement

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Re: The ongoing fight against GPL enforcement

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I'm still not seeing the problem. On one hand, if the license holders of the other infringing software don't care to enforce the license, why should anybody care? It makes no sense to me, but it's up to them. On the other hand, if Sony would rather write it themselves than abide by the GPL then I'm not seeing the problem there, either. Again, it makes no sense, but it's their decision.

On one hand, if the license holders of the other infringing software don't care to enforce the license, why should anybody care? It makes no sense to me, but it's up to them. Believe it or not, most free software developers aren't dying to spend their time and money to start a copyright lawsuit against Sony. That doesn't mean they're actually OK with their copyright and licenses being violated. Public shaming is ofte…

Here's a question: How is Sony's behavior on this so different from what MegaUpload is being accused of?

Basically, Sony is admitting that they are doing this so that they can avoid complying with the GPL, meaning that it is their intent to violate copyright law, knowing that they probably won't get sued over it. Isn't this a criminal act on the part of Sony?

I realize that it isn't as cut and dry, but I do see some strong parallels.

Further, why are these companies so stupid as to not release the source for their BusyBox implementation without being sued? It seems like it would be much, much simpler than trying to hold onto it and then be forced into a situation of releasing the source for everything that's covered.

Re: The ongoing fight against GPL enforcement

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I'm not saying it's OK to violate the terms of open source licenses, but the GPL has never fit with my idea of what Free Software should be like. I see Free Software as a gift given to the world as a whole, regardless of what they plan to do with it. Thus I see GNU and the FSF as terrible gift-givers.

The GPL and the concept of keeping software free permanently embodies the very definition of Free Software. What you're saying is "the absence of color doesn't fit my idea of what black should be, I see black as having a little touch of yellow in it".

Alright, Free Software isn't the appropriate term for the type of open-source license that I appreciate. I apologize for my poor choice of terms.

Re: The ongoing fight against GPL enforcement

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I'm not saying it's OK to violate the terms of open source licenses, but the GPL has never fit with my idea of what Free Software should be like. I see Free Software as a gift given to the world as a whole, regardless of what they plan to do with it. Thus I see GNU and the FSF as terrible gift-givers.

Free Software is not a gift. That is where you go wrong. Just because you want it to be does not make it so. Free Software, as advocated by the FSF and many others, is an attempt to remedy the ethical problems posed by closed source software, which has a strong tendency to lead to monopolistic behavior and unfair power balance between the consumer and the producer of a program. Free Software may be many other things…

>Free Software is not a gift

Yes it is, that is what free means. Check a dictionary.

>Free Software, as advocated by the FSF and many others

The FSF doesn't actually get to re-define the word free to mean "mandates the set of restrictions we desire".

>People who give software as a gift, release it into the Public Domain or use the most liberal of the BSD licenses

Both of which are free software.

Re: The ongoing fight against GPL enforcement

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I'm not saying it's OK to violate the terms of open source licenses, but the GPL has never fit with my idea of what Free Software should be like. I see Free Software as a gift given to the world as a whole, regardless of what they plan to do with it. Thus I see GNU and the FSF as terrible gift-givers.

Free Software is not a gift. That is where you go wrong. Just because you want it to be does not make it so. Free Software, as advocated by the FSF and many others, is an attempt to remedy the ethical problems posed by closed source software, which has a strong tendency to lead to monopolistic behavior and unfair power balance between the consumer and the producer of a program. Free Software may be many other things…

"Those who chose other licenses, do so for reasons you should respect if you intend to benefit from their work." Of course. Authors are free to release software under whatever terms they like, and people who use the software are bound to abide by those terms. Let me be clear, I don't think that it's OK to violate the GPL. I was just saying that I don't really like the GPL.
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