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I don’t want a new phone, but I’m probably buying one

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Re: I don’t want a new phone, but I’m probably buying one

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Post by JoBrad »

popol12 wrote: post #108
Reason077 wrote: post #74

C’mon, he’s still using a phone from 2016 (which was the low-end model even in 2016), and by his own admission it’s still pretty usable for most things. I think that’s a pretty good run. All the Android users I know have been through at least 3 or 4 phones in that period. And so have some of the iPhone users who obsessively upgrade every 2 years even though they don’t need to! (Typing this on an iPhone X from 2017…)

It wasn't low end ! It was released with the same flagship SoC that was inside the last iPhone released (iPhone 7)

The SE has always been the low-end phone, regardless of its internals.

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Post by muyuu »

it's because of stuff like this, and the absurd security/surveillance model, that I simply refuse to install any apps

every app is an added dependency and a possible headache if you incorporate it in your workflow

perhaps paradoxically, if only superficially, the only apps that make sense to install are games and simple tools with immediate replacement in your computer or web - and even that comes with caveats regarding security and privacy preservation

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Post by bioemerl »

wil421 wrote: post #67
bioemerl wrote: post #62

Apple is making you use a new phone by dropping support for it in their OS updates. The fact that this happens at all anywhere at any time at any place for any reason, and can't just install an update yourself should be unacceptable and legislated against

Lol. I’ve had Samsung and Pixel phones that never received updates to newer Android versions, not even to the next version that came out while the phone was still being sold.

Pixel phones, the non-carrier branded ones, are fine in this regard because you can install your own updates.

The only change we really need there is for things like support for older chipsets, and to end carrier OS locks

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Post by popol12 »

fooblaster wrote: post #50

This is what you get when you get trapped in the apple ecosystem. I'd consider getting a pixel 6a - I purchased mine for 150$ with a trade in of a pixel 2 and it will get 5 years of software support.

Are you aware that 2016 was 7 years ago ? The iPhone SE had 7 years of updates.

Re: I don’t want a new phone, but I’m probably buying one

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Post by lotsofpulp »

philipphutterer wrote: post #112

the whole planet upgrade their electronics at least every decade is just an obviously stupid thing and not enough people talk about it This is so true! How can we developers make this a bigger thing? Isn't there a market for this by now?

I do not understand how it is an "obviously stupid thing". Technology advances quite a bit in 10 years, or at least it did from 1990s to 2010s.

Not to mention that the newer devices yield considerable utility and efficiencies that make older devices redundant.

Re: I don’t want a new phone, but I’m probably buying one

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Post by mnw21cam »

nehal3m wrote: post #97
mnw21cam wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The flash chips in the SSD in my actual computer don't seem to have done this, and they're older and have had higher write traffic. If this is a thing, does this just indicate the phone manufacturers are saving a few pence on each unit at our expense?

>If this is a thing, does this just indicate the phone manufacturers are saving a few pence on each unit at our expense? Would this surprise you? If, before I bought a phone, I would have some insight into how long the storage chips will last that would definitely factor into my purchasing decision. This is not something reviews cover, or are even able to cover. Hope LTT Labs sets something up here.

Yeah, this is definitely something I would factor into my purchasing decisions. My phone is showing trouble after just 3.5 years of use, which is unacceptable in my view. It isn't even as if I have used it heavily.

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Post by reportgunner »

philipphutterer wrote: post #112

the whole planet upgrade their electronics at least every decade is just an obviously stupid thing and not enough people talk about it This is so true! How can we developers make this a bigger thing? Isn't there a market for this by now?

It's gonna take a few decades, there are people who are in their first decade and there are people who are not even in their first decade.

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Post by thefz »

ericabiz wrote: post #55

I run phone repair shops and the app starting up slowness is often caused by a failing battery. In fact, at our shops, on older iPhones, I can test the battery state by opening the camera app. If it takes 10-20 seconds to open, it’s usually the battery causing it. (The other cause is storage being close to full.) This won’t help the app resetting issue, which the author correctly identifies as a RAM problem (that I a…

> In general, if you use your phone daily, I recommend getting the battery replaced every 2-2.5 years.

Another thing that people forget to do... please restart in once in a while.

Re: I don’t want a new phone, but I’m probably buying one

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Post by ericpauley »

The analysis of phone lifetimes based on software support is dubious. Apple generally supports groups of devices together that are similar hardware. Given iPhones 12-14 are virtually identical I’d expect these will all lose support around the same time.

Generally, this article is apple hate on steroids!! Apple is still releasing security updates for a 7-year-old device; name a mainstream android phone that’s doing that.

The author should get a refurbished 12 mini. $350 right now and will probably get 5+ years of updates.

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Post by Jaxan »

vanilla_nut wrote: post #51
Jaxan wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s wrong with the old SE? I still use mine daily. (Indeed I had to replace the battery too.)

I held onto my 2016 SE until last month, through 3 battery changes as well. It's no longer receiving updates to the latest iOS, and only gets limited security update backports. Sadly, it won't be long before certain crappy-but-necessary-apps like banking and 2FA auth insist on you installing an update that doesn't exist on iOS 15. Apps increasingly don't bother testing for the 4" screen dimensions, and if you report…

> Apps increasingly don't bother testing for the 4" screen dimensions

Yes that is actually an issue. Websites also seem to think people with small screens don't exist.

I don't recognise the other problems. But you might be right that banking apps at some point will stop working.

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