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Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by globular-toast »

WheatMillington wrote: post #91
yosito wrote: post #67

I've been flying internationally 10-15 times a year for ~10 years. Different routes and destinations each time. I've spent a lot of time searching for hacks like this that let me save a few bucks on flight tickets. Sometimes it works. Sometimes you find that a flight is cheaper depending on which country's website or currency you use to book. Flight tickets are priced dynamically using a variety of factors to determi…

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I feel the same. There are millions upon millions who use a fossil-fuel-powered wheelchair to get anywhere outside of their own house. The house opposite me right now has no less than three SUVs and they are all obese, including the dogs. I was depressed for years trying to live minimally and "do the right thing". Now I've adopted a can't beat 'em, join 'em approach. I just do what I want with little regard to my footprint, just like everyone else.

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Post by gpvos »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #104
WheatMillington wrote: post #91

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You are a climate masochist. I recommend emotionally disengaging from topics that cause you grief and that you absolutely can not impact. The thought of personal CO2 emission reduction behavior having any kind of measurable impact on the climate is laughably naive. I recently had to figure out the cheapest flights I could find to keep my star alliance frequent flier status, which I was at risk of losing because covid…

That makes me sad. Just flying for the sake of keeping a few small green pieces of paper. I guess the airlines are mostly to blame here for this bad method of pricing, but I'd really hope people would not do things like this.

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Post by okintheory »

Gud wrote: post #196
severino wrote: post #180

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If you're worried about climate change, you should not spend your time and resources trying to reduce your own CO2 emissions, but instead, supporting and promoting regulations that force people like yosito to not being able to travel that much, so they will also forcibly start to reduce their footprint.

I think this is a very myopic view. Perhaps OP has a specialist expertise making the travel absolutely necessary? Focus on improving, not limiting. Invest in battery technology, throw billions at it and we will have carbon free air travel

Batteries are not really considered at realistic option for airplanes, AFAIK. The best hope is that they can use synthetic fuel, at a cost of, say, x7 the current price. Regulation could definitely help make that happen -- and those who fly a lot should have to pay for the real price of their transport.

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Post by eloisant »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #140
WheatMillington wrote: post #91

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Don’t take CO2 behavior instruction from people who have children. I can fly international 365 days a year for decades. But my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren will have 0 carbon footprint because they’ll never exist. Conversely, eat bugs and recycle coke cans if you want, but that’s a fraction of a fraction of a drop in the bucket if you’ve had even one kid.

Not having children isn't going to solve the climate crisis because the effect are at a very long term. Children have a very small carbon footprint, they only have a significant footprint when they're adults so we're talking 20 years from now.

We have to reduce emissions right now, not at your inexisting great-grandchildren generation.

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Post by prepend »

WheatMillington wrote: post #91
yosito wrote: post #67

I've been flying internationally 10-15 times a year for ~10 years. Different routes and destinations each time. I've spent a lot of time searching for hacks like this that let me save a few bucks on flight tickets. Sometimes it works. Sometimes you find that a flight is cheaper depending on which country's website or currency you use to book. Flight tickets are priced dynamically using a variety of factors to determi…

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You don’t know GP’s contributions so it’s pointless to compare your own changes to GP’s. This is fatalistic thinking and ultimately boils down to focusing on the known negative and ignoring the unknown positive.

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Post by yosito »

WheatMillington wrote: post #91
yosito wrote: post #67

I've been flying internationally 10-15 times a year for ~10 years. Different routes and destinations each time. I've spent a lot of time searching for hacks like this that let me save a few bucks on flight tickets. Sometimes it works. Sometimes you find that a flight is cheaper depending on which country's website or currency you use to book. Flight tickets are priced dynamically using a variety of factors to determi…

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I appreciate your concern about CO2 emissions and the effort you're making to reduce your own carbon footprint. It's important to be conscious of our impact on the environment. I wanted to share some of the ways I also work to reduce my carbon emissions and help address climate change.

While it's true that I have taken a number of international flights over the past decade, I am very conscious of my carbon footprint in other areas of my life. For example, I've made the choice not to have children, I don't own a car and I live a minimalist lifestyle not buying unnecessary consumer goods. These decisions significantly reduce my overall emissions.

In terms of air travel, it's worth noting that commercial flights account for about 2-3% of global carbon emissions. When we consider the per-person emissions on a commercial flight, it is generally lower than that of other forms of transportation like cars, especially when flights are near capacity.

That said, I completely understand the concern around flying, which is why I purchase carbon offsets for all my flights. This helps to balance out the emissions created by my air travel. Additionally, my professional career is dedicated to working on climate science and finding innovative technical solutions to climate change. In this way, I am actively contributing to the global effort to mitigate the impacts of climate change.

It's important to remember that while individual actions do matter, the largest contributors to climate change are industrial emissions and companies that prioritize profit over the environment. By focusing on these larger culprits and supporting policies and initiatives that hold them accountable, we can create a more significant impact on reducing emissions.

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Post by balfirevic »

okintheory wrote: post #204
Gud wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is a very myopic view. Perhaps OP has a specialist expertise making the travel absolutely necessary? Focus on improving, not limiting. Invest in battery technology, throw billions at it and we will have carbon free air travel

Batteries are not really considered at realistic option for airplanes, AFAIK. The best hope is that they can use synthetic fuel, at a cost of, say, x7 the current price. Regulation could definitely help make that happen -- and those who fly a lot should have to pay for the real price of their transport.

> at a cost of, say, x7 the current price

Where does that estimate come from?

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Post by prepend »

KptMarchewa wrote: post #120
acjacobson wrote: post #112

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And sadly industry dwarfs the CO2 emissions of this frequent flyer (and the rest of us personally). While it's admirable to work on ways of ways to reduce your personal footprint (especially as a way to communicate the problem to others) - actually impacting CO2 levels needs to come from broad regulation. The numbers are just too large and skewed.

Industry provides valuable products for billions of people. Hundreds of reckless flights that could be zoom meetings benefit no one.

What makes you think these flights could be replaced by zoom meetings. Why not assume that GP has spent lots of time carefully considering if they must travel or could replace.

Or maybe there are 500 zoom calls and 150 flights.

Assuming that GP is competent and smart, rather than that we are smart and they are stupid is more likely to be accurate. I don’t assume my situation is the same as others as this is unlikely to be true.

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Post by prepend »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #155
gpvos wrote: post #150

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So who's going to solve tomorrow's climate problems? A well-raised kid is one of the better ways to improve the future. Also, the way the human brain's reward system works, lots of people will say: I have no kids, now I can take an extra far-away holiday.

> So who's going to solve tomorrow's climate problems? All the kids that are being born anyway. But it's hypocritical to both have a kid and then malign me for using 1 millionth of the CO2 the decision to have a kid results in.

Innovation isn’t entirely random. It’s like like all children have an equal probability of doing something great and productive.

Taking responsibility for climate change solution and raising smart and productive kids is probably the single most positive thing one can do.

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