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Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by throwawaylinux » Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 10:52 AM UTC

KptMarchewa wrote: post #120

acjacobson wrote: post #112

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And sadly industry dwarfs the CO2 emissions of this frequent flyer (and the rest of us personally). While it's admirable to work on ways of ways to reduce your personal footprint (especially as a way to communicate the problem to others) - actually impacting CO2 levels needs to come from broad regulation. The numbers are just too large and skewed.

Industry provides valuable products for billions of people. Hundreds of reckless flights that could be zoom meetings benefit no one.

> Industry provides valuable products for billions of people.

Yes, airplanes and jet fuel for example.

> Hundreds of reckless flights that could be zoom meetings benefit no one.

Sounds like they were recreational. Or is happiness not permitted either? I'd better not drive 10 minutes down to the beach to walk my dog tomorrow in case the carbon police catch me, lol. For that matter I'll bet having a dog in the first place makes me a greenhouse nazi because he doesn't much like eating bugs.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by PeterisP » Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 10:53 AM UTC

dotancohen wrote: post #119

gambiting wrote: post #59

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Uhm, it's not directly comparable - cars have different specs in each country and it's very rare you can spec them 1:1 exactly. As an example - you'd find that the starting price of cars in Poland is much lower than in say, UK, but if you compare the spec the "base" model in Poland is missing a lot of equipment that's just standard in the UK to keep the cost down as much as possible.

I don't know about Poland specifically, but in some cases the missing equipment could be critical safety devices mandated by law. For example, from working with import, I learned that in India vehicles can be sold without airbags, and even some structural safety features (reinforced firewall and front frame rails) are not installed on Indian-market cars (mostly to remove weight, actually, not cost). Also, some market…

The legal requirements should be the same in France and Poland, EU is quite big on harmonizing things like that to try and facilitate a single market.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by unsupp0rted » Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 10:55 AM UTC

worldsayshi wrote: post #186

klntsky wrote: post #163

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For every child you don't have I'm going to have two.

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I agree with you it was needlessly rude and combative to say. Although I don't feel like I'm making a sacrifice by not having kids and I'm certainly not doing it to benefit that person's kids.

I just don't need or want any.

I only pull the "no kids" card when somebody who does have kids starts complaining about my greenhouse gas unit count.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by lotsofpulp » Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 10:56 AM UTC

ezconnect wrote: post #87

Hotels have a different online pricing depending on where you are buying it. It is always cheaper locally.

Example? I have never seen this using a major hotel brand website.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by gpvos » Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 11:01 AM UTC

unsupp0rted wrote: post #188

PeterisP wrote: post #177

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IMHO a voluntary reduction in human population by a few billion through reduced birth is a perfectly viable, sustainable long-term strategy; all the drawbacks and criticisms appear when someone wants to encourage that with various means (i.e. not fully voluntarily) or when it's posed as some solution to things which need a faster reduction than possible this way, e.g. climate change won't be prevented even if we went…

It doesn't even have to be voluntarily in the sense of "making a decision to". More like voluntary in the sense of "have no specific need to". In the most developed countries, children are now more of a burden than a gain, which is why women are having fewer of them every generation. Not only because they're expensive, but because they are often born unhealthy (physically, mentally, or both) and are a large, often un…

You were doing so fine until the last sentence.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by Gud » Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 11:02 AM UTC

severino wrote: post #180

WheatMillington wrote: post #91

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If you're worried about climate change, you should not spend your time and resources trying to reduce your own CO2 emissions, but instead, supporting and promoting regulations that force people like yosito to not being able to travel that much, so they will also forcibly start to reduce their footprint.

I think this is a very myopic view. Perhaps OP has a specialist expertise making the travel absolutely necessary?

Focus on improving, not limiting. Invest in battery technology, throw billions at it and we will have carbon free air travel

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by allendoerfer » Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 11:04 AM UTC

unsupp0rted wrote: post #188

PeterisP wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMHO a voluntary reduction in human population by a few billion through reduced birth is a perfectly viable, sustainable long-term strategy; all the drawbacks and criticisms appear when someone wants to encourage that with various means (i.e. not fully voluntarily) or when it's posed as some solution to things which need a faster reduction than possible this way, e.g. climate change won't be prevented even if we went…

It doesn't even have to be voluntarily in the sense of "making a decision to". More like voluntary in the sense of "have no specific need to". In the most developed countries, children are now more of a burden than a gain, which is why women are having fewer of them every generation. Not only because they're expensive, but because they are often born unhealthy (physically, mentally, or both) and are a large, often un…

I get your point and am on neither side of the fence here, since I do not think, we should rely on individual action at all.

I just want to add to the conversation, that somehow your reasoning strikes me as a bit selfish. It is of course true, what you are writing. Still reading it, makes me sad. I am missing some higher meaning. Who cares about a career in the end? A career in our system is just a story of someone, who exceeded at providing value. But for whom, if you do not have kids?

I am missing a bit of Kant in there. A little bit of "You get one (life), you give one back." We (including you) just cannot all do it like that, if we do not want to end our lives rather uncomfortably. So again something about ultimate maximes and what they should be.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by throwaway22032 » Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 11:05 AM UTC

WheatMillington wrote: post #91

yosito wrote: post #67

I've been flying internationally 10-15 times a year for ~10 years. Different routes and destinations each time. I've spent a lot of time searching for hacks like this that let me save a few bucks on flight tickets. Sometimes it works. Sometimes you find that a flight is cheaper depending on which country's website or currency you use to book. Flight tickets are priced dynamically using a variety of factors to determi…

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Taking on the burden of all of mankind is not wise.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by the_third_wave » Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 11:09 AM UTC

FearNotDaniel wrote: post #14

the_third_wave wrote: post #9

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Could be taxes making up the difference, 20% sounds suspiciously close to the French V.A.T. rate of... 20% [1]. [1] https://www.vatupdate.com/2021/04/21/vat-rates-in-france/

There's no VAT on international flights. Other taxes, perhaps, but that 20% difference is not so easily explained.

This was not a payment for a flight but for some extra "service", is there no V.A.T. on that either?

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by unsupp0rted » Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 11:11 AM UTC

allendoerfer wrote: post #197

unsupp0rted wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't even have to be voluntarily in the sense of "making a decision to". More like voluntary in the sense of "have no specific need to". In the most developed countries, children are now more of a burden than a gain, which is why women are having fewer of them every generation. Not only because they're expensive, but because they are often born unhealthy (physically, mentally, or both) and are a large, often un…

I get your point and am on neither side of the fence here, since I do not think, we should rely on individual action at all. I just want to add to the conversation, that somehow your reasoning strikes me as a bit selfish. It is of course true, what you are writing. Still reading it, makes me sad. I am missing some higher meaning. Who cares about a career in the end? A career in our system is just a story of someone,…

What's selfish about not having children? To whom or to what do I owe bringing a child into the world?

It's more likely the opposite: a lot of people would agree that their parents' decision to have children, particularly at a time when they couldn't afford them or lacked the mental strength to care for them and raise them in psychological safety, was selfish.