Felt excited to see Fazıl Say (from Turkey), just to see that the app is not available in Turkey facepalm.
Apple Music Classical
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Re: Apple Music Classical
#72Strange feelings looking at this... This is almost exactly the product I failed to get into YC with back in 2017... All the same ideas as far as the UX goes with one main difference: the business model. I wanted to apply the Steam business model where people would actually buy album again (and not tracks a la iTunes). The issue is that while it's nice to have a UX tailored for classical, this won't likely help the cl…
> But unfortunately, this wont change the fact that the classical recording industry is dying and that the sector is only surviving thanks to public and private subsidies. Bet $100 that all classical music will be AI generated (synthesized and composed) in just three years. Supply side will be infinite.
Bet $200 practically no one will care for AI generated classical music.
Re: Apple Music Classical
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Orchestral music has always depended largely on essentially donations, back to the patronage that kept many of the great composers at least fed, if not rich.
Not always, though. You had church funding and then patronage from the state. Beethoven famously ushered in a new era with his 5th symphony when he secured am advance from the bank to produce it, being the first large work to be produced through commercial investment. Individual patronage continued through the 19th century with notable examples like Tchaikovsky, though increasingly commercial aspects were present. Co…
There are a few composers I support on Patreon who also do their own production via extensive combinations of plugins and soundfonts in applications I've barely ever heard of before. The result is hard to distinguish from a human orchestra, save in the nature of the occasional errors, which are always of composition rather than execution.
This would I think be a lot more common were it not such a niche interest. Even the composers I mention support themselves primarily through orchestration of video game music and the like, using that to subsidize their original work.
I'm not too proud to admit I enjoy the video game stuff, too; I'm no less susceptible to nostalgia than anyone, or maybe somewhat more so. But my point is that, while the technical bar appears fairly high, it is currently within the possible for a composer also to provide the orchestra. It seems likely the technical bar could be lowered, or for that matter that a new production industry could develop in support of those not able to access the more traditional one.
Re: Apple Music Classical
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But unfortunately, this wont change the fact that the classical recording industry is dying and that the sector is only surviving thanks to public and private subsidies. Bet $100 that all classical music will be AI generated (synthesized and composed) in just three years. Supply side will be infinite.
Bet $200 practically no one will care for AI generated classical music.
I'd remind you J. S. Bach exists, and ask if you want to think this one over.
Re: Apple Music Classical
#75Strange feelings looking at this... This is almost exactly the product I failed to get into YC with back in 2017... All the same ideas as far as the UX goes with one main difference: the business model. I wanted to apply the Steam business model where people would actually buy album again (and not tracks a la iTunes). The issue is that while it's nice to have a UX tailored for classical, this won't likely help the cl…
> But unfortunately, this wont change the fact that the classical recording industry is dying and that the sector is only surviving thanks to public and private subsidies. Bet $100 that all classical music will be AI generated (synthesized and composed) in just three years. Supply side will be infinite.
This is not how art or human appreciation for it works...
Re: Apple Music Classical
#76For those asking why they "didn't just" improve the existing music app. This is the rebranded version of a service called Primephonic which they acquired last year. This is obviously way less work than trying to jam it into the existing app, so I don't think it's an entirely unreasonable decision. https://www.apple.com/hk/en/newsroom/2021/08/apple-acquires-...
From a different thread on HN about the same topic, some commenters mentioned that the information architecture and navigation required for classical music is different enough from other music to warrant its own app. I would be surprised if Apple made a decision to cut corners on work and ship a product faster (because from their other products, they seem to be a company that believes in taking their time and delayin…
I’m wondering if they will also do this with jazz, which has similar issues.
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#77I'm really keen to dive into this however as someone knee deep in the ecosystem it's baffling that it doesn't have proper native integration with Apple TV/HomePod. You can Airplay with your phone as the source, but not with the receiving device being the source (which is typically a nicer and more reliable approach as some phone applications can interrupt the streamed audio).
Re: Apple Music Classical
#78Strange feelings looking at this... This is almost exactly the product I failed to get into YC with back in 2017... All the same ideas as far as the UX goes with one main difference: the business model. I wanted to apply the Steam business model where people would actually buy album again (and not tracks a la iTunes). The issue is that while it's nice to have a UX tailored for classical, this won't likely help the cl…
> But unfortunately, this wont change the fact that the classical recording industry is dying and that the sector is only surviving thanks to public and private subsidies. Bet $100 that all classical music will be AI generated (synthesized and composed) in just three years. Supply side will be infinite.
Why would anyone want to listen to it then? what would be the point? The acoustic equivalent of a screensaver?
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Bet $100 that all classical music ALL classical music, in just 3 years. I'm perfectly willing to put my entire net worth on the line for this one.
Be serious. No one with enough bored capital to patronize the arts is going to go to see and be seen at a performance of a synthetic symphony - or not more than once or twice, anyway, for the sake of the thing. Philharmonics need not fear for their concert halls, or not at least for this reason.
I think GP was betting against, not for.
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#80192kHz/24 bit, what a wonderful piece of snakeoil... What do they actually record with this frequency, bats talking to each other about classical music?