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Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by throwaway6734 »

makeitdouble wrote: post #148
WheatMillington wrote: post #91

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You have your heart in the right place. It's also so much more complicated. For instance I took 2 flights last year, but ordered hundreds of goods, all coming from a lot of places around the world, including some by plane that were needed within days. Same for food, same for so many other daily actions that have impact beyond my immediate sphere and I have no idea how or why. People ought to make an effort to not go…

Putting a proper cost on carbon would go a long way

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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smcl wrote: post #34
choeger wrote: post #16

Absolutely. I had a 25% discount offer for the same flight when booking through the American site vs. the European one. Unfortunately, they also asked for an invoice address in the states. So I opted out of that airline altogether. Just wait for the day when airlines buy hotel booking data and increase your price because you already booked a non-refundable room. Or they look into your messaging service or social netw…

Could be due to the added consumer protections and rights you get within the EU - regulations on how the airline should treat you when they cancel flights or when they arrive late etc?

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Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by throwaway6734 »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #140
WheatMillington wrote: post #91

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Don’t take CO2 behavior instruction from people who have children. I can fly international 365 days a year for decades. But my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren will have 0 carbon footprint because they’ll never exist. Conversely, eat bugs and recycle coke cans if you want, but that’s a fraction of a fraction of a drop in the bucket if you’ve had even one kid.

I don't understand this argument. Children are individuals as well that would have their own carbon budget. Not to mention the threat of demographic collapse is serious among almost every developed country

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Post by nwellnhof »

makeitdouble wrote: post #148
WheatMillington wrote: post #91

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You have your heart in the right place. It's also so much more complicated. For instance I took 2 flights last year, but ordered hundreds of goods, all coming from a lot of places around the world, including some by plane that were needed within days. Same for food, same for so many other daily actions that have impact beyond my immediate sphere and I have no idea how or why. People ought to make an effort to not go…

Right. The whole "carbon footprint" idea was invented by big oil to shift the blame on consumers.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by unsupp0rted »

gpvos wrote: post #150
unsupp0rted wrote: post #140

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Don’t take CO2 behavior instruction from people who have children. I can fly international 365 days a year for decades. But my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren will have 0 carbon footprint because they’ll never exist. Conversely, eat bugs and recycle coke cans if you want, but that’s a fraction of a fraction of a drop in the bucket if you’ve had even one kid.

So who's going to solve tomorrow's climate problems? A well-raised kid is one of the better ways to improve the future. Also, the way the human brain's reward system works, lots of people will say: I have no kids, now I can take an extra far-away holiday.

> So who's going to solve tomorrow's climate problems?

All the kids that are being born anyway.

But it's hypocritical to both have a kid and then malign me for using 1 millionth of the CO2 the decision to have a kid results in.

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Post by sampo »

madsbuch wrote: post #145
sampo wrote: post #131

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> How? Like this: > The thing it that synthetic fuels are cyclic. We collect the emitted CO2 again.

Yes, you are focusing on the entire life cycle. This is a bad argument, as you can employ the same argument with fossil fuels. Fuels emit CO2. we can produce fuels by sequestration.

> as you can employ the same argument with fossil fuels

No you can't. "Let's burn oil/gas/coal and then re-capture all the CO2 back" is not something that you can do feasibly, economically, and at scale.

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Post by pwgentleman »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #140
WheatMillington wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Don’t take CO2 behavior instruction from people who have children. I can fly international 365 days a year for decades. But my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren will have 0 carbon footprint because they’ll never exist. Conversely, eat bugs and recycle coke cans if you want, but that’s a fraction of a fraction of a drop in the bucket if you’ve had even one kid.

How long term do you think this strategy is for the human kind?

Does it span more than one generation?

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by ddevault »

WheatMillington wrote: post #91
yosito wrote: post #67

I've been flying internationally 10-15 times a year for ~10 years. Different routes and destinations each time. I've spent a lot of time searching for hacks like this that let me save a few bucks on flight tickets. Sometimes it works. Sometimes you find that a flight is cheaper depending on which country's website or currency you use to book. Flight tickets are priced dynamically using a variety of factors to determi…

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The idea of an individual carbon footprint was invented by oil companies to shift responsibility for climate change from corporations (the cause) to consumers (the victims). Your personal responsibility to address climate change begins and ends at the voting booth (direct action is also good if you really want to make a personal impact). Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by lotsofpulp »

autoexec wrote: post #137
lotsofpulp wrote: post #105

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>Yes it is. That's why people who book flights using an Apple computer will pay more they're pricing based on their best assumptions about your income level. There is no claim of this on the article you linked and no proof of it. It says “could be”, which is unsubstantiated.

That's fair I guess, try this one: https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/mac-users-pa...

That is from 10+ years ago, and it was a travel agent (Orbitz.com) charging more for hotel nights (increasing their cut).

The hotel itself never charged Mac users more, and I have never seen or heard of Hyatt/Marriott/Hilton/etc websites charging based on which operating system they think the query is coming from.

I have yet to see proof that airlines or hotels or car rental companies directly put out different prices to customers based on the device being used, or even anything else.

What they do do to price discriminate is sell via opaque pricing, e.g.

https://www.opaquetravel.com/

Or discounted volume pricing for travel agents who promise to pay a minimum and then the travel agent is on the hook for organizing a group of travelers.

But those are both different than price discriminating based on Windows/Mac.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by pjc50 »

madsbuch wrote: post #125
lazyasciiart wrote: post #114

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You're talking about finding a different way to reduce emissions, it is still reducing emissions.

Synthetic fuels do not reduce emissions. The emissions are just not from fossil fuels. Or am I missing something?

I put "fossil emissions" in my original comment for a reason; things which are made from atmospheric CO2 and not fossil carbon, but then release CO2 again when used, are "net zero" and should not be counted unless you want to confuse people.
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