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Post by foogazi »

crimsontech wrote: post #317
MobileVet wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I definitely appreciate the 'security forward' approach... but what about end of life planning or general 'dad's in a comma and XYZ needs to happen'? 1Password with a 'parents vault' that my wife and I share has been a life changer for coordinating family access to important accounts AND ensuring solid passwords are being used.

I don’t share passwords with family, they all know good password hygiene though and use generated passwords for all their services. For end-of-life scenario apple does have digital legacy https://digital-legacy.apple.com/

What about Netflix or Hulu ?

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Post by klabb3 »

dwheeler wrote: post #14

> And it all syncs across your devices, for free?! Really? My Linux devices? Android? Windows? I don't think so. I recommend considering one of the most important features of a password manager is that it doesn't force you to use a single manufacturer's products forever. Even if you swear undying fealty to Apple (or anyone else) today, you might change your mind in the future. 1Password, Bitwarden, and others allow m…

This. Wouldn’t matter if they had the best UX, and I have both an iPhone and a MacBook. First, I want to be able to use my Linux and Windows machines like they are first class citizens. But more importantly, if I lose my devices I don’t want to be locked out.

Apple is, to this day, largely unable to recognize that there is a world outside their beautiful dystopian garden. I’m sure they’re drooling about making the MacBooks run iOS so you can’t use any software that hasn’t been scanned and approved. When that day comes, I’m out for good.

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Post by great_psy »

InCityDreams wrote: post #243
great_psy wrote: post #113

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I have my old iPhone with no sim that I mostly take to the gym to protect the new one.

>I have my old iPhone with no sim that I mostly take to the gym to protect the new one. What is the other one doing in the gym, unprotected?

One at home, one with me for Spotify in my pocket.

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Post by geocar »

dwheeler wrote: post #176
geocar wrote: post #102

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> Even if you swear undying fealty to Apple (or anyone else) today, you might change your mind in the future. Changing my mind is easy enough: I can export my iCloud passwords to a csv file, and I've done this to transfer a bunch of passwords to Firefox Linux desktop. I'll tell you something though: If Bitwarden leaked passwords nothing would happen because America has very weak consumer protections, but if Google or…

LastPass' entire business model was about protecting passwords, and passwords still got leaked. Most prople want security, not "ability to sue" which is not at all the same thing.

I don't want something just because "most people" want that thing.

And I disagree: I think everyone who has been harmed by another wants the ability to have their story heard by a judge and jury and be cured by the law. Maybe they would prefer to not be hurt in the first place, but as you point out with LastPass, they may not have that option.

What we can choose is the jurisdiction in which we trade, and I would recommend people spend less time navel-gazing and more time thinking about what they can be doing to make things better for themselves.

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Post by snowe2010 »

yamtaddle wrote: post #157
robotresearcher wrote: post #95

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> 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven forbid you need search it's only a simple 37 clicks away! On Mac, at any time, type: command-space passw On iOS tap on any home screen, type passw, tap suggested result

On iOS, my only password manager I've ever used is the built-in Apple one. I just tapped the "search" field on the home screen, and typed "passw". "Top Hit": A store link to the LastPass password manager (which I do not and have never used—the button has the text "get", it's not installed and doesn't have the cloud-icon for previously-installed apps) From there, it's three suggested Siri web searches: "passwords", "p…

I learned from this thread that you can actually disable all that. I did so and my spotlight searching sped up 10-fold and now I only get app results. So much better.

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Post by unilynx »

willhackett wrote: post #323
monocularvision wrote: post #141

Am I the only person on Earth that needs sharing of passwords among my family? Any time folks bring up password solutions, they are always missing this requirement for me. 1Password is a life-saver in this regards. All my kids have their own vaults but for the little ones I have them use a shared vault between my wife and me so we have access to their passwords. I can also easily share passwords for services like Net…

Not at all. Bring on the shared family iCloud Note. lol

You can share folders in Notes

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Post by crossroadsguy »

Apple needs to fix iCloud (or anything where a sync/etc is required) to something that’s at least reliable and transparent from the 2023 standards! Period. As of now it’s so poor if not downright broken.

Because without that everything on the software side by Apple will just remain glorified things that the fans keep bleating about - “just works”, “is perfect”, “just what I need”.

For heaven’s sake Apple does a shoddy job of syncing et cetera and obscures it from the user in the guise of usability and that “Apple knows what users need to do”, not what they want.

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Post by Jnr »

ar9av wrote: post #333
hnrodey wrote: post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

The main limitation of Apple's passwords implementation for me is lack of sharing. For accounts that my wife and I both need access to, we can have them in a shared location in bitwarden, but there's no comparable feature with Apple's. I'll probably even start paying for bitwarden so that I can share with more than one other person when my kids are old enough to need access to them

I'm using self hosted Vaultwarden (open source implementation of the backend) and the password sharing feature is very nice to have.

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Post by Jnr »

probablynish wrote: post #198
monocularvision wrote: post #141

Am I the only person on Earth that needs sharing of passwords among my family? Any time folks bring up password solutions, they are always missing this requirement for me. 1Password is a life-saver in this regards. All my kids have their own vaults but for the little ones I have them use a shared vault between my wife and me so we have access to their passwords. I can also easily share passwords for services like Net…

Bitwarden lets you do this with an 'Organization'. Free to share things between two accounts, looks like $40/yr to share between up to 6 users.

Free if hosting Vaultwarden yourself.
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