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Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by monocularvision »

Am I the only person on Earth that needs sharing of passwords among my family? Any time folks bring up password solutions, they are always missing this requirement for me.

1Password is a life-saver in this regards. All my kids have their own vaults but for the little ones I have them use a shared vault between my wife and me so we have access to their passwords. I can also easily share passwords for services like Netflix so the kids don’t have to bug me.

It has been great for teaching kids about password hygiene (what makes for a good password) and management (don’t reuse passwords!).

And it being cross-platform is great for my older kids with gaming PCs.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by cmnt »

It's incredible how Apple make it's users happy to lock-in in their eco-system. I don't really know Apple eco-system but it seems weird to migrate from tierce app (already well integrated) like Bitwarden to keychain. I've lost count of the people who have switched from their Music App to Apple Music for no reason other than "it's Apple". Apple make good hardware and their eco-system seem amazing too, but people should see the advantages to be not entirely depedent from a company.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by kenver »

robotresearcher wrote: post #95
hnrodey wrote: post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

> 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven forbid you need search it's only a simple 37 clicks away! On Mac, at any time, type: command-space passw On iOS tap on any home screen, type passw, tap suggested result

A shortcut helps

https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/71fea01c333341878e4355df52c...

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by shagie »

cj wrote: post #44
reaperducer wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But there's no "Passwords" app It's called Keychain Access.

The problem is Keychain Access doesn't pass the "mom test" (would you average consumer - e.g. your mom - actually use it)

Since I use it quite a bit for secure notes, I've got it pinned in my toolbar. From the top down I've got Finder, System settings, Keychain Access, HomeKit, Launchpad, Safari... and then other things.

The thing is, its the 3rd one down.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#146

Post by ellisv »

monocularvision wrote: post #141

Am I the only person on Earth that needs sharing of passwords among my family? Any time folks bring up password solutions, they are always missing this requirement for me. 1Password is a life-saver in this regards. All my kids have their own vaults but for the little ones I have them use a shared vault between my wife and me so we have access to their passwords. I can also easily share passwords for services like Net…

I agree that is one of the big issues with keychain. You can share keychain items with people but it is awkward.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by airstrike »

shagie wrote: post #140
airstrike wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't even know why it's called that

Because you can store non-passwords in there too. Secure notes, your own signing certificates, keys, root CAs, and specific self signed certs you've accepted for SSL.

Still, none of that means anything to the average user. Searching for "passwords" in Spotlight should also take you to your passwords

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by shagie »

Anechoic wrote: post #43

Keep a “Notes” field where you can add extra data, like 2FA backup codes, for each password! I'm not sure if the reference here is to Keychain's "Secure Notes" or the "comments" field associated with password items. If the latter, I've found (at least on older versions of OS X/macOS) that when Safari updates the value of a changed password, it deletes the comments! I used the comment field to add the (random) answers…

> that when Safari updates the value of a changed password, it deletes the comments!

It doesn't change a password, it creates a new one.

This means if you somehow mangle saving the password (you thought you updated it, but didn't) the older password is still in your keychain with the older note and it can still be retrieved.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#149

Post by mitemte »

robotresearcher wrote: post #95
hnrodey wrote: post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

> 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven forbid you need search it's only a simple 37 clicks away! On Mac, at any time, type: command-space passw On iOS tap on any home screen, type passw, tap suggested result

Better yet, using the Shortcuts app for iOS, create a shortcut that opens a URL with `prefs:root=PASSWORDS` in Safari.

For macOS, you can make the same shortcut open `/Library/Apple/System/Library/CoreServices/SafariSupport.bundle/Contents/PreferencePanes/Passwords.prefPane`.

A single shortcut can be used to accomplish this, using the OS check and an `if` condition.

Then add the shortcut to the home screen as an icon and it’ll also show up in Spotlight search.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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Post by fckgw »

rohan_ wrote: post #54

>(And it all syncs across your devices, for free?!) IMO the worst part about apple keychain is they can't be used with Chrome (the most common browser for mac!)

You can, Apple has an extension for iCloud Keychain.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/icloud-passwords/p...

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