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Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

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I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

You just run the Keychain Access app on a Mac.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#93

Edit: Removed initial comment, confused my iOS faults. Keychain its current configuration is risky, given its coupled to your iPhone password which many people frequently enter in a public setting. One shoulder surf followed by a phone theft and they've unlocked everything - including your iCloud account (which you can change the password on using iPhone password only).

It needs biometrics or passcode to unlock?

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#94
post #38

If Apple password manager is anywhere as well thought out as their 2FA for Apple TV then I don't want to come next to it within 10 light years. Every time it asked me to either "confirm on your iPad" (I have 3 of those around the house) or "confirm on your iPhone" (I have 0 of those) I was ready to hurl shit. SMS option buried in some dark pattern, of course. If these companies want to encroach in the secrets managem…

I think there’s a setting for that in setup. Is your problem that Apple thinks you have a iPhone or that you have to interact with the tv on a second device? As with all things apple when you buy in you get the best experience. That feature on AppleTV works really well with an Apple Watch.

Which really sucks and puts you off from getting more Apple devices if you're a person who slowly buys into the ecosystem rather than go all-in without testing things.

Personally, I was a fan of Apple laptops between something like 2010 - 2015, but after that I just couldn't deal with it anymore, as I had a Android phone and nothing else Apple.

Fast forward to 2019, Apple finally releases a phone that fits in my tiny hands, so I get a iPhone 12 Mini, thinking that the CarPlay experience will be loads better than Android Auto on a measly Moto G.

But holy smokes if I wasn't wrong, CarPlay is a UX disaster and I can't wait for the iPhone to break somehow or get too slow because of OS upgrades, so I can justify buying a new phone again.

Just the simple fact that a phone calls covers the entire screen (which I use for GPS) seems like such a simple use case that they somehow missed, that I just wanna bin the entire system and I'll never buy Apple hardware for daily use again.

I still have to use Apple laptops for software I release, but every time, I'm reminded how great the UX used to be, but how far they have fallen. Really sad to see. Windows is no better either, each version gets worse and worse...

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#95
post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

> 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven forbid you need search it's only a simple 37 clicks away!

On Mac, at any time, type: command-space passw

On iOS tap on any home screen, type passw, tap suggested result

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#96

Edit: Removed initial comment, confused my iOS faults. Keychain its current configuration is risky, given its coupled to your iPhone password which many people frequently enter in a public setting. One shoulder surf followed by a phone theft and they've unlocked everything - including your iCloud account (which you can change the password on using iPhone password only).

> you can access it when your phone is unlocked without any additional authentication.

No you can not. On my iPhone I have to authenticate with my finger print or pin code again for the passwords.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#97
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. No, it's not. I alternate between Safari, Firefox, and Duck. If a password I use in Safari isn't stored in Firefox, I copy it from the Keychain program and paste it into Firefox. Firefox then asks to save it. No problem. The GUI is buried in System Settings. It has its own program. /Applications/Utilities/Keychain Access

> I copy it from the Keychain program and paste it into Firefox Woah that's the same way I used password managers 10 years ago. Even back then it was considered barbaric. I had no idea people still lived like that.

I never stated that it was good.

The previous commenter said passwords were "unavailable" outside of Safari. I merely demonstrated that his statement was false.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#98

Edit: Removed initial comment, confused my iOS faults. Keychain its current configuration is risky, given its coupled to your iPhone password which many people frequently enter in a public setting. One shoulder surf followed by a phone theft and they've unlocked everything - including your iCloud account (which you can change the password on using iPhone password only).

If I go to system settings > password on iOS, it then requires Face ID to get in. So I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Under Face ID & passcode you can also require Face ID for a password auto fill. So I don’t think any of this is correct.

Re: Apple passwords deserve an app

#99
post #4

I tried going all-in on using iCloud Keychain (correct term?) for my passwords from having previously used LastPass. In short. 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. 2. On Mac it's tied specifically to Safari. I use Safari a lot but if I'm in a different browser then my passwords are unavailable. 3. The GUI is buried in System Settings. Heaven fo…

A limited GUI is also available within Safari on desktop. It is a tab under Preferences. It makes working in Chrome bearable.

Agree the UI is terrible in iOS.

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