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Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by l33t233372 »

nimbius wrote: post #17

OpenAI is certainly open, just for business is all. this is probably a controversial take but until i see a reference implementation in a GPL compatible license, openAI is just a parlour trick to milk cash from corpulent tech giants clawing desperately at the next big thing that might differentiate them from competitors that they may continue to remain relevant for at least another quarter in a recession. a closed so…

> a closed source AI with a mission to be friendly and helpful is probably the most jarring conflict i can think of

What is jarring about this?

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by zamnos »

dotnet00 wrote: post #64
zamnos wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure your housing, food, possibility car subscription are far more expensive. :)

Surely you aren't suggesting that their service is anywhere near as important as basic costs of living?

It already is if you want your productivity to be competitive in a post ChatGPT world, if you're in an role where it's already proven invaluable. There are many roles where this is not the case. There are many roles where it is. How long did it take for the Internet to become indispensable? For cars? For electricity? The downvotes I got on that comment shows many here clearly disagree, but if it, and future version of the technology mean you can do in 2 hours what it would have taken you 4 or 8, we're not going to get those 4 or 6 extra hours as vacation time, it means we'll just that more productive over an 8 hour work day.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by smaudet »

burnished wrote: post #69
rany_ wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you actually just compare essentials with a ChatGPT subscription? You're beyond disconnected....

Seems fair to gently challenge OPs top level proclamation.

To gently challenge your acceptance of an absurd, disconnected "challenge" -

When every service starts pushing 20$ subscription fees onto their service to support their backend usage(s) of these services (in a desperate attempt to remain relevant in a global recession), then every service becomes base + 20$ cost.

Tabulate various "services", e.g. netflix, disney+, mail-order subscription(s), lets say two or three, this quickly tabulates to 200$ per month (30 + 30 + 30 + 30 + 30 ~= 150, don't forget shipping and taxes).

On a 6 figure salary, that's chump change. On a "above minimum wage" salary, you are lucky to have 20$ a month in spare change. In a world where most jobs have disappeared, your 1500$+ rent and 800$+ month becomes suddenly unaffordable for most people, and as most people are unable to pay, rent/subscription prices rise even more.

"Open" AI is truly a disaster in the making, in every possible way.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by zamnos »

acedTrex wrote: post #56
zamnos wrote: post #24

Where every idiot with a Google account/Microsoft account/phone number can sign up for their service and start churning out tokens per second by the query, I'd say it's pretty open to the public. The far more closed alternative would be to keep it invite only, granted only towards a set of elites, at select companies. Only OpenAI knows how much $20/user is charging them, but for the price insensitive wealthy, after b…

I reject this idea that just because its more broadly available for purchase makes it ok to coop the term "open" in this context. It's clearly legal etc but its a shitty practice that should be continually called out and mocked

I agree, but PublicAccessAI doesn't roll off the tongue quite so well, and brings to mind images of bad public access cable TV shows. Hardly the image a cutting-edge company wants to project.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

zamnos wrote: post #79
rany_ wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you actually just compare essentials with a ChatGPT subscription? You're beyond disconnected....

Lol and with the immediate downvotes I got for pointing that out say the masses agree with you. I mean look, I get it, if you're in an industry where ChatGPT isn't immediately useful (it's shit at hard-level leet code questions; it's a hosted solution so your company's IT policies should be stopping you from submitting proprietary data to it, and so on) then all the hype is unjustified. But where this thing is alread…

> But where this thing is already banging out emails way faster than an unassisted human,

… your system is completely broken. Emails are for communicating between people: if they're not being used for that, you need to fix that problem first.

> companies that don't raise their productivty-per-employee are going to get left behind

Can you give an example of a field where this would actually happen?

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by zamnos »

kodah wrote: post #52
RobotToaster wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess GPT is advanced enough to write HN posts now?

Honestly, as bad of a take as OPs comment is calling people robots on the internet in any serious manner is also pretty bad form.

Thanks. :)

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by zamnos »

gl-prod wrote: post #54
zamnos wrote: post #24

Where every idiot with a Google account/Microsoft account/phone number can sign up for their service and start churning out tokens per second by the query, I'd say it's pretty open to the public. The far more closed alternative would be to keep it invite only, granted only towards a set of elites, at select companies. Only OpenAI knows how much $20/user is charging them, but for the price insensitive wealthy, after b…

It requires a phone number. They're closed to a bunch of countries.

I'm not in other countries so this is a genuine question - does using a Google or Microsoft login not obviate that need?

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by gl-prod »

zamnos wrote: post #89
gl-prod wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It requires a phone number. They're closed to a bunch of countries.

I'm not in other countries so this is a genuine question - does using a Google or Microsoft login not obviate that need?

You get redirected to enter your name and phone. Did it not ask you?

edit: You can't even access parts of openai sites from the "naughty" countries.

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