Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension • Hacker News Board

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by vasco » Mon, Mar 27, 2023, 4:36 PM UTC

RobotToaster wrote: post #39

zamnos wrote: post #24

Where every idiot with a Google account/Microsoft account/phone number can sign up for their service and start churning out tokens per second by the query, I'd say it's pretty open to the public. The far more closed alternative would be to keep it invite only, granted only towards a set of elites, at select companies. Only OpenAI knows how much $20/user is charging them, but for the price insensitive wealthy, after b…

I guess GPT is advanced enough to write HN posts now?

I believe the guidelines already cover this in:

"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

But with the amount of comments nowadays just dismissing someone else's comment as "did GPT write this" I wonder if HN should call it out specifically. It gets really tiring.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by kodah » Mon, Mar 27, 2023, 4:37 PM UTC

RobotToaster wrote: post #39

zamnos wrote: post #24

Where every idiot with a Google account/Microsoft account/phone number can sign up for their service and start churning out tokens per second by the query, I'd say it's pretty open to the public. The far more closed alternative would be to keep it invite only, granted only towards a set of elites, at select companies. Only OpenAI knows how much $20/user is charging them, but for the price insensitive wealthy, after b…

I guess GPT is advanced enough to write HN posts now?

Honestly, as bad of a take as OPs comment is calling people robots on the internet in any serious manner is also pretty bad form.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by elkos » Mon, Mar 27, 2023, 4:38 PM UTC

DeathArrow wrote: post #48

Is the browser extension open?

Yes it seems it is under the GPL 3

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by gl-prod » Mon, Mar 27, 2023, 4:38 PM UTC

zamnos wrote: post #24

Where every idiot with a Google account/Microsoft account/phone number can sign up for their service and start churning out tokens per second by the query, I'd say it's pretty open to the public. The far more closed alternative would be to keep it invite only, granted only towards a set of elites, at select companies. Only OpenAI knows how much $20/user is charging them, but for the price insensitive wealthy, after b…

It requires a phone number. They're closed to a bunch of countries.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by vasco » Mon, Mar 27, 2023, 4:39 PM UTC

zamnos wrote: post #20

naranha wrote: post #11

"Open - for some definition of open" AI Prepare to open your wallet each time you use it.

Unless you're in an impoverished part of the world, $20/month seems pretty friggin cheap (for user-level access) to me.

Luckily you can use it for free!

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by acedTrex » Mon, Mar 27, 2023, 4:40 PM UTC

zamnos wrote: post #24

Where every idiot with a Google account/Microsoft account/phone number can sign up for their service and start churning out tokens per second by the query, I'd say it's pretty open to the public. The far more closed alternative would be to keep it invite only, granted only towards a set of elites, at select companies. Only OpenAI knows how much $20/user is charging them, but for the price insensitive wealthy, after b…

I reject this idea that just because its more broadly available for purchase makes it ok to coop the term "open" in this context. It's clearly legal etc but its a shitty practice that should be continually called out and mocked

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by muyuu » Mon, Mar 27, 2023, 4:40 PM UTC

are there PAYG plans that I can top up without having to give them my personal data or CC info?

I was trying the API assuming I could do some requests within the free trial, just as I can from the browser - but apparently not, zero requests for free

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by charcircuit » Mon, Mar 27, 2023, 4:41 PM UTC

>They make incredible tools and actually release them (unlike Google and Facebook).

Google and Facebook have released far more tools than OpenAI.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by 0xdeadbeefbabe » Mon, Mar 27, 2023, 4:42 PM UTC

Wow, language model users are sensitive about language. It's like OpenAI has enrolled in a human appreciation course, and they are the subject of our experiment.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by barrysteve » Mon, Mar 27, 2023, 4:43 PM UTC

chpatrick wrote: post #42

zamnos wrote: post #24

Where every idiot with a Google account/Microsoft account/phone number can sign up for their service and start churning out tokens per second by the query, I'd say it's pretty open to the public. The far more closed alternative would be to keep it invite only, granted only towards a set of elites, at select companies. Only OpenAI knows how much $20/user is charging them, but for the price insensitive wealthy, after b…

I wonder if OpenAI's goal is to keep potentially dangerous tech from leaking while making their supposedly safe solution so cheap that it discourages reckless competition.

I wonder if an AI researcher would love to build a better interpreter for reverse engineering LLMs and would want to try it on an LLM clone of OpenAI's setup.

The cloud-service moat is the strongest security for OpenAI.