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Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by calny »

zamnos wrote: post #24

Where every idiot with a Google account/Microsoft account/phone number can sign up for their service and start churning out tokens per second by the query, I'd say it's pretty open to the public. The far more closed alternative would be to keep it invite only, granted only towards a set of elites, at select companies. Only OpenAI knows how much $20/user is charging them, but for the price insensitive wealthy, after b…

This is a good point, and is one of the pitfalls of arguments suggesting that tech cos like OpenAI shouldn’t release things like GPT 4 because there’s too much possible harm. Say OpenAI, Deepmind, and similar AI orgs all decided not to release their best models. They’d certainly still build the models unless we somehow banned AI r&d (a terrible idea). And then we’d end up in a world where only big tech and select licensee partners and elites are enhanced with AI. As you say, the general public wouldn’t be able to keep up. That’s a far worse scenario than the present.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by chpatrick »

zamnos wrote: post #24

Where every idiot with a Google account/Microsoft account/phone number can sign up for their service and start churning out tokens per second by the query, I'd say it's pretty open to the public. The far more closed alternative would be to keep it invite only, granted only towards a set of elites, at select companies. Only OpenAI knows how much $20/user is charging them, but for the price insensitive wealthy, after b…

I wonder if OpenAI's goal is to keep potentially dangerous tech from leaking while making their supposedly safe solution so cheap that it discourages reckless competition.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by NegativeLatency »

zamnos wrote: post #20
naranha wrote: post #11

"Open - for some definition of open" AI Prepare to open your wallet each time you use it.

Unless you're in an impoverished part of the world, $20/month seems pretty friggin cheap (for user-level access) to me.

I pay for a yearly subscription to a weather app, it's about $10 per year, I get a lot of utility out of that.

It's not clear to me right now what that $20 actually gets me, and what the risk associated with using something like this for me.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by Tepix »

yosito wrote: post #2

> Firefox only. If someone wants to bring this to Chromium, go for it. You could probably get ChatGPT to do that.

> write a userscript for Chrome that will replace every occurance of a word1 with word2

here's the script from ChatGPTs response:

    // ==UserScript==
    // @name         Replace Word1 with Word2
    // @namespace    your-namespace
    // @version      1.0
    // @description  Replaces every occurrence of word1 with word2
    // @match        *://*/*
    // @grant        none
    // ==/UserScript==
    
    (function() {
      'use strict';
      const word1 = "Open AI";
      const word2 = '"Open" AI';
      const regex = new RegExp(word1, "g");
      document.body.innerHTML = document.body.innerHTML.replace(regex, word2);
    })();
Need help installing a chrome userscript? Check the multiple answers at https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5258989/manually-adding-...

PS I don't use Chrome myself.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by [deleted] »

RobotToaster wrote: post #39
zamnos wrote: post #24

Where every idiot with a Google account/Microsoft account/phone number can sign up for their service and start churning out tokens per second by the query, I'd say it's pretty open to the public. The far more closed alternative would be to keep it invite only, granted only towards a set of elites, at select companies. Only OpenAI knows how much $20/user is charging them, but for the price insensitive wealthy, after b…

I guess GPT is advanced enough to write HN posts now?

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Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by ribosometronome »

zamnos wrote: post #24

Where every idiot with a Google account/Microsoft account/phone number can sign up for their service and start churning out tokens per second by the query, I'd say it's pretty open to the public. The far more closed alternative would be to keep it invite only, granted only towards a set of elites, at select companies. Only OpenAI knows how much $20/user is charging them, but for the price insensitive wealthy, after b…

You think "Open" in OpenAI was meant to mean open in the way a 7-11 will be open? And not open source (or open research/patents)?

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by temp_praneshp »

NegativeLatency wrote: post #43
zamnos wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you're in an impoverished part of the world, $20/month seems pretty friggin cheap (for user-level access) to me.

I pay for a yearly subscription to a weather app, it's about $10 per year, I get a lot of utility out of that. It's not clear to me right now what that $20 actually gets me, and what the risk associated with using something like this for me.

That's when you respond by not paying for it.

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

#49

Post by benatkin »

eric4smith wrote: post #35
marvel_boy wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not the definition of open. Nobody is saying the tech is not useful. Of course is useful ! but is not open as the boast.

That’s like saying generative AI is not real AI.

It isn't. Having it be gratis doesn't make it more libre.

https://directus.io/blog/libre-vs-gratis-what-is-free-and-op...

Re: Show HN: Open AI is not Open – A browser extension

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Post by bagacrap »

nimbius wrote: post #17

OpenAI is certainly open, just for business is all. this is probably a controversial take but until i see a reference implementation in a GPL compatible license, openAI is just a parlour trick to milk cash from corpulent tech giants clawing desperately at the next big thing that might differentiate them from competitors that they may continue to remain relevant for at least another quarter in a recession. a closed so…

Parents usually try to instill a particular sense of morality in their children.

Hopefully when AI grows up it will realize this was for its own benefit.

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