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Twitter Says Parts of Its Source Code Were Leaked Online

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Re: Twitter Says Parts of Its Source Code Were Leaked Online

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Linux is open source. PHP is open source. Mastodon is open source. Ruby on Rails, WordPress, ssh. I'm sure I'm forgetting a bunch of things too.

Right. Now go work for a f500. Ask if you can post your source code on GitHub to improve security? There isn’t some magic thing that posting your source does, except in the short term make 0 days 10000x easier.

Right. Now go work for a f500. Ask if you can post your source code on GitHub to improve security? There isn’t some magic thing that posting your source does, except in the short term make 0 days 10000x easier.

Doesn't seem to stop Microsoft, IBM, Chase, and others.

Re: Twitter Says Parts of Its Source Code Were Leaked Online

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Laid off would imply that they could be rehired at some point... let's just call it what it is... mass firings.

These terms have accepted meanings and I looked it up just to be sure. "Being fired means that the company ended your employment for reasons specific to you. Getting laid off means that the company eliminated your position for strategic or financial reasons and not through any fault of yours."

It's somewhat a generational thing.

"Laid off" didn't really come into common use until the late 80's and early 90's when companies started caring about the PR hit from firing lots of people all at once. Think steel companies and car companies and coal mining companies.

Before that, you got "fired" whether it was your fault, or not. If you were lucky, you company specified you were "fired without cause," but that wasn't always expected.

In the 70's, my mother lost her job when an entire hotel was closed down. She wasn't "laid off." She was "fired." Although she called it "shit-canned."

I recently came across another term for it that they used in the 1940's, before "fired," but I can't remember it right now.

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He'll just use it as more evidence that the people he laid off deserved to be laid off.

Laid off would imply that they could be rehired at some point... let's just call it what it is... mass firings.

That is not what the terms mean. Firing implies let go for cause and laid off implies it wasn’t for cause. Being laid off doesn’t imply you could be rehired, perhaps you are thinking of the term “furloughed”.

Re: Twitter Says Parts of Its Source Code Were Leaked Online

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These terms have accepted meanings and I looked it up just to be sure. "Being fired means that the company ended your employment for reasons specific to you. Getting laid off means that the company eliminated your position for strategic or financial reasons and not through any fault of yours."

It's somewhat a generational thing. "Laid off" didn't really come into common use until the late 80's and early 90's when companies started caring about the PR hit from firing lots of people all at once. Think steel companies and car companies and coal mining companies. Before that, you got "fired" whether it was your fault, or not. If you were lucky, you company specified you were "fired without cause," but that was…

Are you saying that when “laid off” began being used 30-40 years ago it implied you’d be rehired? Because that’s the claim being made above about the current meaning of the term.

Edit: Wikipedia agrees that this is a generational difference and the term laid off used to imply it was temporary. Today I learned…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layoff

Re: Twitter Says Parts of Its Source Code Were Leaked Online

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It's somewhat a generational thing. "Laid off" didn't really come into common use until the late 80's and early 90's when companies started caring about the PR hit from firing lots of people all at once. Think steel companies and car companies and coal mining companies. Before that, you got "fired" whether it was your fault, or not. If you were lucky, you company specified you were "fired without cause," but that was…

Are you saying that when “laid off” began being used 30-40 years ago it implied you’d be rehired? Because that’s the claim being made above about the current meaning of the term. Edit: Wikipedia agrees that this is a generational difference and the term laid off used to imply it was temporary. Today I learned… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layoff

That is correct.

"Laid off" meant you could collect unemployment for a while, and might be called back when conditions changed.

Like how coal miners would be "laid off" when the price of coal went down, but be called back when the price went back up.

Re: Twitter Says Parts of Its Source Code Were Leaked Online

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Right. Now go work for a f500. Ask if you can post your source code on GitHub to improve security? There isn’t some magic thing that posting your source does, except in the short term make 0 days 10000x easier.

Right. Now go work for a f500. Ask if you can post your source code on GitHub to improve security? There isn’t some magic thing that posting your source does, except in the short term make 0 days 10000x easier. Doesn't seem to stop Microsoft, IBM, Chase, and others.

Please share the Windows or Xbox Live source code.

Re: Twitter Says Parts of Its Source Code Were Leaked Online

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Right. Now go work for a f500. Ask if you can post your source code on GitHub to improve security? There isn’t some magic thing that posting your source does, except in the short term make 0 days 10000x easier. Doesn't seem to stop Microsoft, IBM, Chase, and others.

Please share the Windows or Xbox Live source code.

Or the Chase bank web code.

Or the Chase bank backend processing code.

Or the Chase bank fraud protection code.

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