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Re: Beginners Guide to HTML/CSS

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Post by mebert » Tue, Jan 31, 2012, 2:57 AM UTC

Great design and extremely helpful!

Re: Beginners Guide to HTML/CSS

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Post by vcabansag » Tue, Jan 31, 2012, 3:04 AM UTC

Wonderful layout and great content! Looking forward to the next lessons.

Re: Beginners Guide to HTML/CSS

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Post by probitymike » Tue, Jan 31, 2012, 3:09 AM UTC

This is a great resource Shay! I wish someone would have built this accessible curriculum 18 months ago when I started learning HTML & CSS. This feedback on HN will only make it better.

Re: Beginners Guide to HTML/CSS

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Post by CBizzle » Tue, Jan 31, 2012, 3:18 AM UTC

Can we fix the typos? "HTML comments wrap the context [sic] starting with <-- [sic] . . ." and "doctype deceleration [sic]".

Re: Beginners Guide to HTML/CSS

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Post by fady » Tue, Jan 31, 2012, 3:24 AM UTC

jergason wrote: post #10

I really wish they didn't link the w3schools at the bottom under resources. They are a spammy, and often incorrect, resource for learning HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. MDN has better docs, no ads, and no trying to sell you dubious "certifications."

i agree with you. they're much better resources out there. honestly, nothing compares to current books about subject, as i feel they give more depth to the why, when, how, etc. i think they better prepare for mastering the topic. have someone read these pages and then head over to an html spec and see if they understand what is being discussed or proposed :)

edit: site is nice though.

Re: Beginners Guide to HTML/CSS

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Post by moonchrome » Tue, Jan 31, 2012, 3:57 AM UTC

ohgodthecat wrote: post #15

jergason wrote: post #10

I really wish they didn't link the w3schools at the bottom under resources. They are a spammy, and often incorrect, resource for learning HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. MDN has better docs, no ads, and no trying to sell you dubious "certifications."

I always link people to http://htmldog.com/ over w3schools but I don't know if they have the same issues. They do offer a better layout and design imo and seem to be fine for the beginner.

Good god that site uses the same colors as Google ad-words I feel like it's a domain name placeholder, there's no emphasis on anything, everything is blue or light green and text is stretched in one long line (widescreen HD res). God, I feel confused looking at that site almost dizzy as my eyes try to find focus on the page - and I'm not exaggerating - this is the strangest design I've ever seen.

Re: Beginners Guide to HTML/CSS

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Post by slace » Tue, Jan 31, 2012, 4:09 AM UTC

I wish this was up on github so everyone could contribute to it to build a better set of docs

Re: Beginners Guide to HTML/CSS

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Post by gggritso » Tue, Jan 31, 2012, 4:10 AM UTC

cgarvey wrote: post #7

I'm really not a fan of the "Design" of this. It looks pretty, but the "wall of text" approach feels overwhelming. It feels like it's half guide and half reference, but not particularly excellent at either. Also the organization of content seems way off to me. In the first lesson I learn about things like code validation and CSS resets, but I don't even learn about html list elements until lesson 9? I think with a lo…

Other complaints aside, I just wanted to say that I quite like the "wall of text" approach. Thinking back to the article on API documentation from Parse (http://blog.parse.com/2012/01/11/designing-great-api-docs/) I'll agree that having everything on one page, quickly accessible, is a good way to do. By breaking up the page with relevant headings and sub-headings the docs can be made much less daunting (as they are here). I'd be much more annoyed with having to click between pages too often.

Re: Beginners Guide to HTML/CSS

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Post by natep » Tue, Jan 31, 2012, 4:20 AM UTC

tabaflaba wrote: post #17

No one uses the strong tag.

False. At the very least, Reddit uses the strong tag, and so I don't feel like scouring the web for more bold text. I did do one search, and it turns out other people recommend strong over b in most situations, like this person: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/649305/alternative-to-the...

Re: Beginners Guide to HTML/CSS

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Post by Cushman » Tue, Jan 31, 2012, 4:24 AM UTC

moonchrome wrote: post #26

ohgodthecat wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always link people to http://htmldog.com/ over w3schools but I don't know if they have the same issues. They do offer a better layout and design imo and seem to be fine for the beginner.

Good god that site uses the same colors as Google ad-words I feel like it's a domain name placeholder, there's no emphasis on anything, everything is blue or light green and text is stretched in one long line (widescreen HD res). God, I feel confused looking at that site almost dizzy as my eyes try to find focus on the page - and I'm not exaggerating - this is the strangest design I've ever seen.

I have no idea why you're being downvoted for this, I had exactly the same experience. I was expecting it, and I still had to stop myself from hitting back reflexively.