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Apple’s Best Hope for New Headset: a Smartwatch-Like Trajectory

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> With that in mind, executives are striking a realistic tone within the company. This isn’t going to be a hit product right out of the gate. But it could follow a similar trajectory as the Apple Watch. Their confidence is blinding.

Can you elaborate? I have not found a use for a VR headset or the Apple Watch, beyond as a toy, or fashion accessory. Even then, it's been so long since I've worn a watch that wearing a watch is awkward. Yet apparently Apple sells a lot of them, and it is the smart watch with the highest number of global sales.

Anecdotally I was in a similar mindset about the Apple Watch for a while after the novelty wore off. I found the notification functionality (my main use case when I first got it) incredibly distracting, and having to remember to charge it constantly annoying. So I stopped actively wearing it for a period of time.

It was only once I started using it for its health tracking capabilities and turned off many of the annoying notifications that I started regularly wearing it.

Is it as essentially as having my phone with me when I leave the house? Ultimately, no, and it does require more thought about how to squeeze the most utility out of it (when compared to a smartphone) but I think the reason it’s so popular is the flexibility it affords:

- Sport tracking watches are great at tracking everything down to a fine detail BUT you wouldn’t want to be seen wearing them out to a dinner

- Traditional (non-smart) watches look very nice as a fashion accessory BUT are useless for fitness and integrating other data into the faster-to-read watch form factor

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This will be as successful as Animojis. This headset will have a loyal customer base, will make a big splash, but will not transform computing, creative work, or anything for the everyday user. Apple Watch got so extremely lucky. I do not ever want to see Apple make product decisions like 'well this worked, so let's see if this will, too.' There is zero taste in that, zero craftsmanship, it's just AppleGPT Product Ed…

> This headset will have a loyal customer base, will make a big splash, but will not transform computing, creative work, or anything for the everyday user.

Oooh, I love these "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame."-type proclamations.

> Apple Watch got so extremely lucky.

Breathtaking.

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> With that in mind, executives are striking a realistic tone within the company. This isn’t going to be a hit product right out of the gate. But it could follow a similar trajectory as the Apple Watch. Their confidence is blinding.

Can you elaborate? I have not found a use for a VR headset or the Apple Watch, beyond as a toy, or fashion accessory. Even then, it's been so long since I've worn a watch that wearing a watch is awkward. Yet apparently Apple sells a lot of them, and it is the smart watch with the highest number of global sales.

I was super-skeptical about the Apple Watch.

Particularly as it didn't show the time. (Initial versions didn't have enough power to keep the display on all the time).

Apple finally got me by fixing that and by making their phones too large to carry around while running. Grrr. But glad they did.

It's been eye-opening. The fitness and sleep tracking are fantastic, and if you are having issues in that area, potentially life-changing.

I was also resisting contactless payment, being a typical German "cash is good" guy. And I still think cash is good. But during the pandemic everything went contactless, and Apply Pay with the watch is just super convenient. Always there, no PIN to enter or signature to verify, ever.

Life-saver when my wallet got stolen on holiday.

And of course super-comfy listening to podcasts, books or music while exercising or on public transport.

Since I got it with the cell radio, I nowadays often just leave my phone at home. Who needs to carry that around? And no phone, no social media :-)

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My prediction: it will suck. Why? All AR devices suck, the tech just isn't there.

More than that, I think the underlying problem is that people simply don't want VR/AR. Decades of science fiction writing has convinced us that it is the future, but like..why?

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As someone who really does enjoy being terminally online, but who also enjoys being out in the world, I have to say I'm kind of excited about the possibility here.

The whole wearable & ubiquitous computing dream greatly motivated me as a grade schooler. The idea was compelling then & still interesting/hopeful now. Given the specs (below) of the hallmark display, the p4 Private Eye (1989), I am excited to see what we can do. And Apple's general competency at hardware will be interesting to see at play as we go-forth-again:

> Mounted on a pair of glasses, with a 720 x 280 pixel red monochrome screen in a 8.89 x 3.81 x 3.18mm casing, the actual display measured 1.25-inches diagonally but appeared as though you were viewing a 15-inch monitor from 18-inches away.

The possibility of me owning an Apple product is up from 0%.

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This will be as successful as Animojis. This headset will have a loyal customer base, will make a big splash, but will not transform computing, creative work, or anything for the everyday user. Apple Watch got so extremely lucky. I do not ever want to see Apple make product decisions like 'well this worked, so let's see if this will, too.' There is zero taste in that, zero craftsmanship, it's just AppleGPT Product Ed…

How much would you be willing to bet on this?

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Apple has come a long way from the time when not even the engineering team working on a product would know what it really was until Steve Jobs unveiled it on stage. Now everything gets leaked like at every other company.

Did Apple even have a hundred executives in 2008?

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Initial product will be weak, just like the original iPhone (no App Store, slow, poor battery life, etc) and Apple Watch (no development, no health tracking, small screen, poor battery life).

The thing about Apple is not to judge based on v.1 but to watch the iteration. They are the most persistent company in the world. Compare to Google which seems to have ADHD. Apple will iterate and iterate and in 5 years we’ll all be shocked that it is an “overnight success” and undisputed market leader with an unassailable ecosystem.

If their stock tanks after the release I’ll see it as a good buying opportunity!

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This will be as successful as Animojis. This headset will have a loyal customer base, will make a big splash, but will not transform computing, creative work, or anything for the everyday user. Apple Watch got so extremely lucky. I do not ever want to see Apple make product decisions like 'well this worked, so let's see if this will, too.' There is zero taste in that, zero craftsmanship, it's just AppleGPT Product Ed…

How much would you be willing to bet on this?

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Re: Apple’s Best Hope for New Headset: a Smartwatch-Like Trajectory

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This will be as successful as Animojis. This headset will have a loyal customer base, will make a big splash, but will not transform computing, creative work, or anything for the everyday user. Apple Watch got so extremely lucky. I do not ever want to see Apple make product decisions like 'well this worked, so let's see if this will, too.' There is zero taste in that, zero craftsmanship, it's just AppleGPT Product Ed…

I am doubtful their VR product will be great if released within this or next year.

> Apple Watch got so extremely lucky

But given that others have tried and arguably failed to have the same impact, this is not sizably attributed to luck at all.

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