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Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by biztos »

have_faith wrote: post #348
pdc56 wrote: post #332

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Curious - on a scale out of 10, how much of that was written by ChatGPT? No offense intended - if the answer is zero, my apologies

I’ve noticed a large amount of responses from chatgpt start the second/third paragraph with “however, “ or a similar adverb. It will always strive to provide a “balanced” view, even on heavily one sided subjects.

However, it’s usually more covering its digital ass against the pitchfork-wielding critics than actually balancing the view.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by kashunstva »

echelon wrote: post #392
prawn wrote: post #373

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It's not just that the budgets are harder to justify; it's also that prospective clients consider themselves to be experts. Having your judgement and expertise consistently overruled is disheartening and you often end up just following instructions, sapping any joy from the (diminishing and cheaper) role. I started my web business 25 years ago. 5ish years ago I started photographing and filming travel content, primar…

No. It's that the job to be done is to sell product. Not build a handcrafted website. Not build a beautiful website. Provide something that markets and sells something to customers. And with that perspective, the client really does know better. The web is ephemeral. Will it even still exist in twenty five years after AI provides all the answers and connections (all we use the web for anyway)?

> the client really does know better.

really _may_ know better.

Some have very skewed notions about UI/UX that don’t conform to how most users (and pertinently, their customers) use web apps; but they will insist on it.

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Post by JanneVee »

jeppester wrote: post #354

This very well sums up the anxiety I have about how this is going to affect programming. That any creativity and understanding will be sucked out and replaced with prompt engineering. I still think you will have to be a good developer to understand if the solution you get is good, but is that even going to matter when you can just ask again and try again? I think there will be lots of code bases that no-one really un…

> I still think you will have to be a good developer to understand if the solution you get is good, but is that even going to matter when you can just ask again and try again? I think there will be lots of code bases that no-one really understands, but that it won't matter much.

Really? If you have a million dollar bug because of one edge case and you are going to go to your AI and ask it to try again?

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Post by jatins »

7speter wrote: post #369
jatins wrote: post #297

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In a world where AI makes most of the things/services, wouldn't everything be so cheap that most people can afford it on something like UBI?

Not when all the marine life dies off because the oceans are too acidic and wrecks all sorts of havoc on above land eco systems.

...how does the Marine Life die in this scenario?

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Post by elforce002 »

HervalFreire wrote: post #182
rafaelero wrote: post #78

When DALL-E 2 was released, I remember reading lots of people here in HN saying it would never take the jobs of artists. Well, seems like this argument is aging badly. This is exactly the type of conversation we need to have as a society. Instead of deluding ourselves that our skills are impossible to be reproduced by a machine, we should strive to build a system with values in which we can find a way to build a good…

>Well, seems like this argument is aging badly. This is a nice way of putting it. It just shows how people have a tendency to deny a reality that may replace everything they stand for. What you will see as AI continues to get better along the obvious trendline is these "denial" arguments become more and more specific. First the AI will "never" replace jobs, then it will "never" replace specific jobs involving "progra…

100x this. I think will see something like France but on a global scale.

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Post by grumbel »

jeppester wrote: post #354

This very well sums up the anxiety I have about how this is going to affect programming. That any creativity and understanding will be sucked out and replaced with prompt engineering. I still think you will have to be a good developer to understand if the solution you get is good, but is that even going to matter when you can just ask again and try again? I think there will be lots of code bases that no-one really un…

Even prompt engineering is just a short term problem, that'll get solved and largely disappear within a couple of years, if not months. Making sense of natural language is after all what LLM are already really good at, they just haven't made their way into image generators yet.

Another big issue that gets overlooked is that a lot of the problems that programming is used to solve today will disappear and no longer be considered problems to begin with. A whole lot of data conversion is no longer necessary when you have an AI that can directly interface with the raw data and manipulate it in whatever format you like.

People today are thinking of ChatGPT as making it easier to build websites, software and such, but real the power of AI is that it makes all of that obsolete. Why bother browsing the Web when ChatGPT can just give you what you are looking for in whatever format you desire, without ever touching a website?

AI is not just going to write software, AI is going to be the only software you'll ever need. BingChat today is already Photoshop, Shell and Webbrowser all in one. Won't be long until it learns to do most of the rest as well.

The interesting question is: What will be left after all this? If we automate away all the boring parts, what are going to be the bits that provide value? How will the Website of the future look like when AI will be the only one reading them? What's the value of a classic book when AI can write new books in real time? Will anybody bother with video games when they have a Holodeck at home?

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Post by MildlySerious »

runnerup wrote: post #3

People with a good understanding of different styles of art and framing/angles/etc should be able to create the "right" prompts for a customer much much faster and get better results than people who don't know art. Generative AI like Midjourney will completely upend the art industry (it already is). But I don't think it's the death knell for the study of art. Here's a solid example of that in the context of creating…

> People with a good understanding of different styles of art and framing/angles/etc should be able to create the "right" prompts for a customer much much faster and get better results than people who don't know art.

When the Bing image creator released a couple of days ago, I used ChatGPT to craft a prompt for it.

> In one sentence describe the art style of impressionism

Then used that in my prompt for the creator:

> okinawa street on a rainy night, visible brush strokes, emphasis on the changing effects of light, and an emphasis on capturing the fleeting moment

The result: https://imgur.com/a/QdT1Gtk

This was the first shot. No prompt engineering, no parameters, nothing.

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Post by DecoySalamander »

justrealist wrote: post #141
gwbrooks wrote: post #115

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>> This is exactly the type of conversation we need to have as a society. Comments like this always make me wonder: How would that happen? Here in the U.S., there's relatively little appetite for job-saving labor protections and, once you leave the regulatory sphere, everyone -- employers, employees, consumers of products and services -- is consistently self-interested. Not saying that sort of societal conversation i…

It doesn't even really matter what the US regulations are. If a firm in the Philippines can run Midjourney for pennies to generate content that would take hundreds or thousands of dollars in illustrator costs, there's simply no way to mandate labor protections in the US that would keep customers from outsourcing the work. The gradient is just too strong, and you can't keep a pedigree on every image you publish that o…

There is an "easy" solution - a regulation that would remove copyright protection from AI-generated art, or perhaps even art that has an AI-generated output somewhere in the pipeline. Art could still be AI-generated for efficiency, but large studios would be forced to keep humans on a payroll for accountability.

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Post by michaelt »

benja123 wrote: post #387
Mistletoe wrote: post #359

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This is fascinating. I can’t imagine why someone would go to the trouble to do all that for a comment.

I think it is likely the complete opposite of trouble. It helped them write their comment faster and in such a way that it was easy to understand. This is one of the best use cases for chatgpt. Rather than spend minutes trying to get the right wording, tell chatgpt what you want to say in a few short notes and get a well formed coherent text. Now if this is a good thing, that’s up for debate - although overall I pers…

> It helped them write their comment faster and in such a way that it was easy to understand.

Right, but why not save even more time by not commenting at all?

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Post by saurik »

chimprich wrote: post #384
saurik wrote: post #325

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Compilers and high-level languages assuredly reduced the number of engineers needed, right? No: we just started making much more complicated things and the basic level of "this isn't even a serviceable solution" has gone up so high that if you sat around and wrote a trivial program designed to be used over a teletype--which is got much easier as you can do it in C instead of assembly--you'd lose in the market to your…

Would being the pet of an AI-run civilisation be so bad though? Iain M Banks's Culture novels explore basically this concept, and his vision of utopia is quite appealing.

I honestly don't like how we treat our pets (and especially so here in the United States). I keep imagining that the situation will end up feeling--at best--like this episode of (The New) Outer Limits. :(

https://theouterlimits.fandom.com/wiki/The_Human_Operators

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