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I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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I feel bad for people reluctant to embrace the tech. It feels like refusing to adopt email, the web, mobile apps, and so on. Why not use it to your advantage?

Truth is, it's going to become a must for many companies very soon, or they'll be unable to compete. Maybe there will be some niches where human artists thrive, but it's uncertain at this stage.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Companies are slow to move on things, but I think "video game concept artist" is done. An art director can now sit down in front of Midjourny and pump out years and years of a concept artists work in just an afternoon.

When electric sound amplification came along, it put most professional musicians out of business. Instead of an orchestra all you need is a band of 3 or 4. Making music expanded though. In the sense that more people played, there was more variety, and indeed more professional musicians today than 100 years ago. (the bar for entry is also lower, and most are permantly broke - take that as you will.) Some orchestras st…

I was just pointing out one job that I could see in my industry. I for one welcome the wealth of interesting new indies games with great looking graphics we'll soon see.

People will be able to take more risks and do more interesting projects. It will be awesome.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Didn't all major companies do mass-firings recently? What do you expect will happen if an entry-level software engineer becomes 2x as productive? You need 2x less, so you fire half the team.

A smart company will realise it's better to be 2x productive for the same money than to be at the same productivity for half the money.

Wrong, there's just so much a company can dedicate itself too, otherwise you'll start doing little useless experiments that go nowhere like google

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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We’re creating a new global average standard of living with disastrous consequences. The poor areas rapidly gain wealth but at great cost to the environment and the whole thing is dependent on a never-ending fire hose of capital and tech transfers from the “wealthy” areas. The wealthy areas, already unable to offer many citizens the ability to raise a family, are desperately engaging in extreme financialization, ludi…

>> The poor areas rapidly gain wealth but at great cost to the environment and the whole thing is dependent on a never-ending fire hose of capital and tech transfers from the “wealthy” areas. While I sympathize with your angst at the coming future, a future where the US isn't the highest, I see that for most of the world your prediction is both highly desirable, and inaccurate. Firstly, let's dispel the great-cost-to…

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Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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What jobs have been totally replaced thus far?

If performing a job is even just 10% faster, you can fire 1 person out of a team of 10 (or need to hire in the first place). This should be obvious.

I'm sure most programmers work more than 10% faster with syntax highlighting and autocomplete. But no one says IDE replaced humans' jobs.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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These AI systems will sound the death knell for the creative culture of openness and sharing that emerged during the web 1.0 era with the Creative Commons and OSI-approved licenses and sites like DeviantArt, NewGrounds, and SourceForge, and which still exists today, albeit in a less idealistic form. Once people realize that by putting something, even just a blog post, out for public consumption, especially if done so…

Let's not pretend that is just altruism why people "open-source" their art or code. Most of them do it to get noticed.

The benefits of openness compound irrespective of the motivations of creators.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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It didn't take the job in the sense that the OP is still employed. It changed the job into something that barely resembles what the OP was hired to do. It's not quite constructive dismissal, but many people choose fields for reasons of maximizing income. It's hard to stay motivated doing something you hate, especially when a week ago your job had you doing something you love. And that says nothing about the OP's ethi…

The reality is that an artist in a mobile games company is hired for their technical skills, with very little creative freedom. The real artist is usually the art director or a similar position responsible for stylistic/creative/conceptual decisions. If your job is mostly technical, be ready to re-learn and reshape your skills when your tool goes the way of cel animation. I personally had to do this at least three ti…

I've had to do something similar in a much shorter career as well (about 10 years or so). I think the rate of change is much quicker these days too. It was still always within the tech field, but for better or worse my career has been incredibly diverse. Not sure if I'll be able to keep up when I'm older (entering my 30ies now) or not, but so far I've always seen it as personal growth opportunities.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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We've created a society where there are such things as 'jobs' and unless you're rich, you need a job to support yourself and maybe a family. I think this model of society worked reasonably well for a while, but with AI we're coming to the end of that era. In the next era we'll probably live like aristocrats, but instead of the work being done by servants, it'll be done by AI. Back to the case of the 3D artist, in thi…

We've needed "jobs" to support ourselves since we descended from the trees. Actually before that too. "Society" came about because we invented tools and techniques to make our jobs easier so people could spend more time on different things. "AI" is some more steps down that same path. > In the next era we'll probably live like aristocrats, but instead of the work being done by servants, it'll be done by AI. Not in th…

I agree with a lot of what you write, but in my experience in the UK there can be instances where money from the the wealthy has been used for the common good. For example, until 1945 only the rich could afford to educate their children, but the government decided to use taxpayers' money to provide free education for every child up to the age of 16. It was a utopian idea, and when it was first suggested most people said, 'yeah right, nice idea but of course it'll never happen'.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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I suspect this isn’t much different from the direction software development is headed. You can either find satisfaction in the process or the outcome. The process can already be fairly mundane and will become more so with time. A couple of other random thoughts: 1. Currently, these things work best (really need) an operator experienced in the craft. Ironically by eliminating entry level positions they may make it har…

> 1. Currently, these things work best (really need) an operator experienced in the craft.

I guess the question is: how long does the intermediate state of super-powered developers last?

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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I do work in tech. Almost 25 years. As a traditionally trained artist, my advantage over the years always was the knowledge of composition, color and my drawing skills when producing the visual part of the products. I focused early in my company (2005) on UX and UCD processes, and with the time realized that people don't care about craftsmanship or maximizing the quality. We are approaching a time of generative desig…

> A.I. art is not art. I will give you a simple example: Who will be the creator of the famous David sculpture? Michelangelo or the rich patron who gave the description of the task? According to the definition of A.I. "art" the patron is the artist.

No? What are you even talking about? AI is not a person. In every single legal and ethicical discussion, "human" and "non-human" are treated completely differently. AI is a tool, while Michelangelo isn't.

Who's the creator of David sculpture is completely unrelated to whether AI art is art or not.

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