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India Shut Down Cell Service for 27M During a Manhunt

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Re: India Shut Down Cell Service for 27M During a Manhunt

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Post by shmde »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #42

Unfortunately India is no longer a democracy. The religious nuts took over and it already had a history of old British laws about "purity" and things not to say. It is really sad to see the world's largest democracy fall. Scams, poor work ethic in the populace, and a lack of a country wide shared belief structure caused all this.

> Unfortunately India is no longer a democracy.

> It is really sad to see the world's largest democracy fall.

The last time I voted it was still a democracy. Did someone come along and destroy the whole election process. If not stop being overdramatic you are just embarassing yourself.

Re: India Shut Down Cell Service for 27M During a Manhunt

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Post by ilrwbwrkhv »

shmde wrote: post #51
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #42

Unfortunately India is no longer a democracy. The religious nuts took over and it already had a history of old British laws about "purity" and things not to say. It is really sad to see the world's largest democracy fall. Scams, poor work ethic in the populace, and a lack of a country wide shared belief structure caused all this.

> Unfortunately India is no longer a democracy. > It is really sad to see the world's largest democracy fall. The last time I voted it was still a democracy. Did someone come along and destroy the whole election process. If not stop being overdramatic you are just embarassing yourself.

Ya Russia votes too. Keep enjoying your false reality.

Re: India Shut Down Cell Service for 27M During a Manhunt

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Post by ratg13 »

ummonk wrote: post #43
darth_avocado wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definition of a domestic terrorist per the FBI: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature. I feel a lot of arguments on “that’s not terrorism” come in when it doesn’t affect the western countries. Just because an organization hasn’t committed any recent a…

The FBI uses an expansive definition of "terrorism" for obvious self-serving reasons. In reality, violent criminal acts to further ideological goals aren't terrorism unless done to actually spread terror.

Can you give an example of a violent criminal act done to further ideological goals where the goal is not to spread terror?

Re: India Shut Down Cell Service for 27M During a Manhunt

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Post by uptownfunk »

surmkm wrote: post #39
uptownfunk wrote: post #31

It is a shame, what is the harm in giving Khalistan maybe not a national sovereignty but at least a statehood. The same has been denied to several areas, bundelkhand, mithilanchal, are a few that come to mind. Why does jharkhand and telangana get to have a claim to statehood but these other regions do not. Let the people vote and ratify it or else let the fight continue.

Maybe you don't know that there's already a state named Punjab with Sikh majority population. Khalistanis wants to create a separate country with Sikh majority.

Well I think the trickier part in all honesty is that the proposed region includes part of Pakistan. Won’t hold my breath on that one, but best of luck.

Re: India Shut Down Cell Service for 27M During a Manhunt

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Post by yutijke »

Gell-Mann Amnesia again. You lot have complained bitterly about misrepresentation of facts by mainstream media. And take the commentary of the same media on other countries as gospel.

If there is anyone living in Punjab here you should probably add your opinion here to enlighten others (and possibly me).

From my perspective some Canadian Sikhs seem to have an axe to grind and seem to be completely out of touch with the sentiment of the Sikhs actually living in Punjab. A lot of Punjabi Sikhs seem to be unhappy with how some of n-th gen diaspora folks with no connection to the land (have never lived there) are claiming to speak for the whole of Punjab.

Re: India Shut Down Cell Service for 27M During a Manhunt

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Post by shmde »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #52
shmde wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Unfortunately India is no longer a democracy. > It is really sad to see the world's largest democracy fall. The last time I voted it was still a democracy. Did someone come along and destroy the whole election process. If not stop being overdramatic you are just embarassing yourself.

Ya Russia votes too. Keep enjoying your false reality.

Did you just compare Russia which is a dictatorship to India which still regularly holds election and has seen leaders from different political parties come and go in the last 20 years. Putin has been the president since 2000. You the type of person to regurgitate Twitter news.

Re: India Shut Down Cell Service for 27M During a Manhunt

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Post by zereraz »

darth_avocado wrote: post #4

The shutdown aside, the “activist” is a separatist and terrorist. Quite the use of words there by wired and even Wikipedia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amritpal_Singh_(activist)

The guy was trying to get people away from drugs and to help them find a spiritual path using the native religion of the land Sikhi. He asked for debates on national media which irked many and this led to them deciding to vanish him by sending 80k troops.

Re: India Shut Down Cell Service for 27M During a Manhunt

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Post by ummonk »

ratg13 wrote: post #53
ummonk wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The FBI uses an expansive definition of "terrorism" for obvious self-serving reasons. In reality, violent criminal acts to further ideological goals aren't terrorism unless done to actually spread terror.

Can you give an example of a violent criminal act done to further ideological goals where the goal is not to spread terror?

If the violence is directly in service of their goals without relying on the spread of terror, e.g. environmentalists blocking loggers, labor strikers shutting down a factory, or separatists setting up checkpoints and attacking government soldiers to create their own statelet.
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