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I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by melagonster »

rafaelero wrote: post #78

When DALL-E 2 was released, I remember reading lots of people here in HN saying it would never take the jobs of artists. Well, seems like this argument is aging badly. This is exactly the type of conversation we need to have as a society. Instead of deluding ourselves that our skills are impossible to be reproduced by a machine, we should strive to build a system with values in which we can find a way to build a good…

unfortunately, we have capitalism. in our society, if people and their kids starving and dying, we think this ia justice.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by blackoil »

brushfoot wrote: post #35
mrcartmeneses wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All knowledge workers are completely screwed. The only way out is UBI and a maximum three-day work week.

I don't see it. I consult, and AI has just let me take on more clients. Using ChatGPT lets me finish their projects faster. What's ending is the era of CRUD work.

Today yeah, but tomorrow the clients can use GPT 7 consultant who has better context with access to all the mails/data of the client. It is fast/cheap and is a polymath.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by rcoveson »

markles wrote: post #27

The lack of empathy the HN community has really shines through in many of these replies: > There were no doubt quite a few nail makers pre-industrial revolution that took pride in making consistent, quality nails. > And nothing of value have been lost. > LOL at the reply a couple posts down, where OP admits they work at a mobile shovelware sweatshop.

The first one is a little unoriginal (but this conversation has been had a bunch so it's hard to fault it for that). The second two we were all working on downvoting and had them near-invisible until you quoted them, restoring their reach. :P

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by Julesman »

We are going to be seeing so much of this. It is sad. Start up culture at times seems to insist that all progress must be good, as though progress itself will be thwarted by reflection or honesty.

Something is lost and something is gained, but that doesn't make the losses painless or irrelevant. We can be pragmatic and have empathy at the same time.

What I don't think we should do is act like every change is inherently good. Perhaps something valuable will be lost to efficiency and the bottom line. Hopefully something will also be gained.

Let's not be in a hurry to declare implications. And let's try to be helpful.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by blackoil »

terminatornet wrote: post #37
web3-is-a-scam wrote: post #12

People are already generating entire apps with AI in minutes. Software engineering as a profession is finished. We are all now slaves to Roko’s Basilisk.

I'm guessing this tweet is what the OP was referring to https://twitter.com/mortenjust/status/1636001311417319426 This is the first bit of AI news that actually made me want to investigate it for myself. Even though it is pretty impressive to get a working app out of a few prompts, it seems for now it's not capable of producing much more than snippet level code. I like the author's take further in the thread: > Compa…

But Company A has reduced product price be 60% because the biggest cost center is now halved. Customers like some new features from B but not justifying the price.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by 8f2ab37a-ed6c »

I imagine portrait painters and later photographers all experienced a similar transition. They had built their livelihoods around a certain visual asset generation technique, and a new technology disrupted that process and pushed them into the nice-to-have luxury corner. The same train will come for prompt engineers eventually too in the usual cycle.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by ChatGTP »

melagonster wrote: post #121
rafaelero wrote: post #78

When DALL-E 2 was released, I remember reading lots of people here in HN saying it would never take the jobs of artists. Well, seems like this argument is aging badly. This is exactly the type of conversation we need to have as a society. Instead of deluding ourselves that our skills are impossible to be reproduced by a machine, we should strive to build a system with values in which we can find a way to build a good…

unfortunately, we have capitalism. in our society, if people and their kids starving and dying, we think this ia justice.

That’s because it’s a minority of people in that situation, once it’s > 50% facing prospects like that, it all changes in the blink of an eye.

No one gives a crap until it’s your own child, then it’s probably too late.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by pkdpic »

This is a tragic disappointment a lot of (if not most (if not an overwhelming majority (if not literally all))) artists experience at some point early or late in their professional careers.

I taught art for a long time and I would always try to frame this inevitable experience as an important moment of growth. When you have to form a deeper relationship to your creative work and think strategically about how you want to support yourself long term.

There's no getting around it, it's really hard seeing what this is doing to visual artists. The few of us that could find good work doing what we love...

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by 8f2ab37a-ed6c »

pkdpic wrote: post #128

This is a tragic disappointment a lot of (if not most (if not an overwhelming majority (if not literally all))) artists experience at some point early or late in their professional careers. I taught art for a long time and I would always try to frame this inevitable experience as an important moment of growth. When you have to form a deeper relationship to your creative work and think strategically about how you want…

What's an analogy in the software world to this sort of tragic disappointment? Going from building fun videogame side projects to having to crank out dozens of over-engineered B2B SaaS microservices, for the sake of job security, for yet another sales workflow optimization tool?

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by orbital-decay »

rafaelero wrote: post #78

When DALL-E 2 was released, I remember reading lots of people here in HN saying it would never take the jobs of artists. Well, seems like this argument is aging badly. This is exactly the type of conversation we need to have as a society. Instead of deluding ourselves that our skills are impossible to be reproduced by a machine, we should strive to build a system with values in which we can find a way to build a good…

It didn't take OP's job, though. It gave them another tool that produces better output, but which they don't happen to like (in contrast to their colleague who doesn't have issues with it).
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