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Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by noirbot »

JackFr wrote: post #71
harimau777 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My concern is that there would be no one to pay for it because they have been driven out of the market.

That doesn’t make sense. Buyers don’t get driven out of the market.

They do if they lose their jobs. Art isn't something you must buy. I like to buy art, but if I lost my job, it's one of the first things I'll be cutting back on. And the less people are buying, the more the remaining artists have to charge to keep being able to afford to do art, which just spirals more people out of the buyers market.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by kybernetyk »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #72
muyuu wrote: post #52

Some people say there isn't enough empathy to go around for those creatives that are seeing their jobs either endangered or automated to a degree they've become sweatshop janitors with little prospects to be anything else. I wonder if that sort of empathy was so plentiful when the automation was shredding the prospects of farmers, miners, truckers and other blue collar workers? Make no mistake, generative AI is going…

> wonder if that sort of empathy was so plentiful when the automation was shredding the prospects of farmers, miners, truckers and other blue collar workers Yeah I remember the whole "learn to code" movement that mocked people who were losing their jobs.

And when it was about journalists losing jobs, it quickly got banned as "harassment". By the same people who a few years earlier made fun of blue collar people who lost their jobs.

Maybe this is the "learn to weld" moment?

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by bryanlarsen »

stemlord wrote: post #74
wsc981 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yesterday I visited an old, but still reasonably healthy man who has been living in Thailand for 40 years now, maybe longer. Reasonably healthy as in: he doesn't need to visit hospital or use medicine, but his power is now waning a bit due to age. A man originally from Switzerland. 88 years old now. When he arrived in Thailand he bought a nice plot of land and made a quite beautiful garden there, with many fruits and…

I won't be able to afford a plot of land without a job. I feel like we're on the verge of cataclysmic unemployment and I have absolutely no desire to wait in squalor for legislation to catch up with the nifty little UBI idea floating around which seems like should have been sorted yesterday.

An acre of farmland costs $2000 in North Dakota. You need 5000 of them to make a living growing wheat, but an acre should be enough to feed a family, maybe a few more if you want meat.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by RDaneel0livaw »

wsc981 wrote: post #68
markles wrote: post #27

The lack of empathy the HN community has really shines through in many of these replies: > There were no doubt quite a few nail makers pre-industrial revolution that took pride in making consistent, quality nails. > And nothing of value have been lost. > LOL at the reply a couple posts down, where OP admits they work at a mobile shovelware sweatshop.

Yesterday I visited an old, but still reasonably healthy man who has been living in Thailand for 40 years now, maybe longer. Reasonably healthy as in: he doesn't need to visit hospital or use medicine, but his power is now waning a bit due to age. A man originally from Switzerland. 88 years old now. When he arrived in Thailand he bought a nice plot of land and made a quite beautiful garden there, with many fruits and…

"Maybe we'd all be happier with just a nice plot of land and some plants to tend to and perhaps some hobbies to keep us busy. And maybe it would keep us healthier (both mentally as well as physically) as well. "

And where is the fantasy world where "we all" have enough money for this?

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by ChatGTP »

rafaelero wrote: post #78

When DALL-E 2 was released, I remember reading lots of people here in HN saying it would never take the jobs of artists. Well, seems like this argument is aging badly. This is exactly the type of conversation we need to have as a society. Instead of deluding ourselves that our skills are impossible to be reproduced by a machine, we should strive to build a system with values in which we can find a way to build a good…

Interesting development, these machines have little value but for economic gain. No one employed, means no one will pay to keep the machines alive which means we go back to where we were before the machines? AI art is just as “worthless” as human art. So at the moment these machines depend on an economy.

Art was actually never worth anything until we put a price tag on it ? People were never paid for cave paintings. Maybe what we’re actually going to witness is the end of the idea of money , which I know sounds absolutely absurd, but what else happens ?

If machines become sentiment, that’s cool, but at that stage they’re no longer “our property” to force art generation upon, so then what to do we do ?

Completely fascinating.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by pixl97 »

JackFr wrote: post #71
harimau777 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My concern is that there would be no one to pay for it because they have been driven out of the market.

That doesn’t make sense. Buyers don’t get driven out of the market.

What is a recession or a depression?

Economic collapses are a thing.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by [deleted] »

factsaresacred wrote: post #67
web3-is-a-scam wrote: post #12

People are already generating entire apps with AI in minutes. Software engineering as a profession is finished. We are all now slaves to Roko’s Basilisk.

Likely sarcasm, still I'll bite. I saw the exact same commentary around the no-code hype of the past few years and it made me increasingly cynical. No-code tools made it super easy to create a boilerplate website that looked pretty but was not fit for purpose. Meanwhile it was advertised as "Build an AirBnB clone without code!". OK fine, hyperbole as a marketing tactic. But many people handed over wads of cash for co…

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Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by wetpaws »

sheepscreek wrote: post #29
runnerup wrote: post #3

People with a good understanding of different styles of art and framing/angles/etc should be able to create the "right" prompts for a customer much much faster and get better results than people who don't know art. Generative AI like Midjourney will completely upend the art industry (it already is). But I don't think it's the death knell for the study of art. Here's a solid example of that in the context of creating…

I think the OP wasn’t disappointed about the end result, which is now higher quality by their own admission. They can certainly use their skills and experience to engineer prompts that will return the highest quality work, no doubt. What made them sad is they no longer have the joy and satisfaction of developing those models in a 3D rendering software. This is what they trained for. In many ways, this is like the ini…

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Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by chii »

thomascgalvin wrote: post #81
rafaelero wrote: post #78

When DALL-E 2 was released, I remember reading lots of people here in HN saying it would never take the jobs of artists. Well, seems like this argument is aging badly. This is exactly the type of conversation we need to have as a society. Instead of deluding ourselves that our skills are impossible to be reproduced by a machine, we should strive to build a system with values in which we can find a way to build a good…

I just wish I was part of the first generation to benefit from post-scarcity, and not the generation that is going to have to go through the turmoil of getting to post-scarcity.

the generation that went thru the industrial revolution would have said the same thing, except they'd wished they were in your position today.

People just don't realize how good today is compared to the past - and of course, how good the future would be (nuclear war notwithstanding).

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