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Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by egypturnash »

wetpaws wrote: post #5

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A person had a job they liked. It was turning a crank to make content but they enjoyed the act of turning the crank.

Now the parts of turning the crank they enjoyed are gone. And their job is a shitty, demoralizing drag.

Is that of no value in your world? Have you never weighed jobs based on whether one sounded like more fun than another, along with other considerations like how much money it would make? Has nobody you've known ever made an employment choice based in that?

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by barry-cotter »

harimau777 wrote: post #60
thrill wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The market will decide if those "good enough" people are right.

Perhaps the market is wrong. Just because something is profitable doesn't make it good.

If you don’t like the taste of the people who want to pay for art I suggest doing what is traditional and either (a) paying for it yourself, or (b) taking over or setting up the government funding for artists so that people who share your taste are in control.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by dilyevsky »

superb-owl wrote: post #59

I can empathize. I've been using Copilot inside of neovim, and it's frighteningly good. It feels like it's reading my mind. In a few years, a lot of us will be just be writing highly specific Jira tickets instead of doing the hard logic of coding.

I mean I’m using it (also nvim). It’s powerful autocomplete, speeds me up by maybe 20-30% when in “typing in code” phase and that’s that. Dont see it replacing software engs any time soon. SWE+copilot will replace just SWE tho that one is for sure

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by Yabood »

Waterluvian wrote: post #42

I saw AI as a tool like Photoshop, and for that reason wasn’t buying all this anxiety. I still see it as a tool, but this post has changed my entire perception of the issue: It’s not that a new tool will replace you. It’s that a new tool might be too compelling to avoid, but be boring and miserable to work with and suck the joy out of your craft.

I think its both. Per OP, the process of producing their art no longer takes weeks when using AI, therefore, less people will be needed.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by harimau777 »

barry-cotter wrote: post #62
harimau777 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps the market is wrong. Just because something is profitable doesn't make it good.

If you don’t like the taste of the people who want to pay for art I suggest doing what is traditional and either (a) paying for it yourself, or (b) taking over or setting up the government funding for artists so that people who share your taste are in control.

My concern is that there would be no one to pay for it because they have been driven out of the market.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by Yabood »

imtringued wrote: post #58
web3-is-a-scam wrote: post #12

People are already generating entire apps with AI in minutes. Software engineering as a profession is finished. We are all now slaves to Roko’s Basilisk.

ChatGPT is impressive if you start from a clean slate but the moment you do anything more complicated it slows down to being as fast as doing things yourself. After all, you have to know what to input into it and that may take longer than actually processing the information.

This won’t be a problem once you can feed it an entire solution. I suspect we’re not too far from being able to do that.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by factsaresacred »

web3-is-a-scam wrote: post #12

People are already generating entire apps with AI in minutes. Software engineering as a profession is finished. We are all now slaves to Roko’s Basilisk.

Likely sarcasm, still I'll bite.

I saw the exact same commentary around the no-code hype of the past few years and it made me increasingly cynical. No-code tools made it super easy to create a boilerplate website that looked pretty but was not fit for purpose. Meanwhile it was advertised as "Build an AirBnB clone without code!".

OK fine, hyperbole as a marketing tactic. But many people handed over wads of cash for courses that promised results that were in reality no more than cardboard cutouts of actual websites.

The Internet appears to have an endless ability to create markets for don't-do-the-work-and-still-enjoy-the-reward snakeoil.

And now we have ChatGPT- an instant boilerplate-creating machine. Watch as a new (or in many cases the same) class of charlatans grease up this technological wave too.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by wsc981 »

markles wrote: post #27

The lack of empathy the HN community has really shines through in many of these replies: > There were no doubt quite a few nail makers pre-industrial revolution that took pride in making consistent, quality nails. > And nothing of value have been lost. > LOL at the reply a couple posts down, where OP admits they work at a mobile shovelware sweatshop.

Yesterday I visited an old, but still reasonably healthy man who has been living in Thailand for 40 years now, maybe longer. Reasonably healthy as in: he doesn't need to visit hospital or use medicine, but his power is now waning a bit due to age.

A man originally from Switzerland. 88 years old now. When he arrived in Thailand he bought a nice plot of land and made a quite beautiful garden there, with many fruits and vegetables and trees. Also many salas spread throughout the 8000 m2 terrain. And chickens, dogs, cats walking around and about.

The man has had quite an adventurous live in the past, back when the world was more adventurous as well, perhaps ...

Anyway, the man is content just tending to his plants. And reading and writing in one of the salas that he uses as a (kind of) outdoor office. In the past he also used to paint, but he's not able to do this anymore.

Maybe we'd all be happier with just a nice plot of land and some plants to tend to and perhaps some hobbies to keep us busy. And maybe it would keep us healthier (both mentally as well as physically) as well.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by LegitShady »

gumby wrote: post #7
idiotsecant wrote: post #2

There were no doubt quite a few nail makers pre-industrial revolution that took pride in making consistent, quality nails. That work was utterly and completely obliterated by the industrial revolution. There may be a few remaining nail makers, producing nails with an extremely niche design, but not many. So goes those jobs our lifetime as well

The Unabomber was notable for manufacturing his own screws, so I'm not sure how many artisanal nail makers remain. In those days nails were re-used, it was such a pain to make them.

there are still companies that make cut or square nails - and machines that make them are old.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by stemlord »

runnerup wrote: post #3

People with a good understanding of different styles of art and framing/angles/etc should be able to create the "right" prompts for a customer much much faster and get better results than people who don't know art. Generative AI like Midjourney will completely upend the art industry (it already is). But I don't think it's the death knell for the study of art. Here's a solid example of that in the context of creating…

>People with a good understanding of different styles of art and framing/angles/etc should be able to create the "right" prompts for a customer much much faster and get better results than people who don't know art.

Strong disagree. It's a completely different discipline. One doesn't "know art", they know a specific flavor of it, and 3d modelling is not... sentence constructing.

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