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Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Call their bluff - don’t make your service available in Utah.

That would be nice wouldn't it - mental health would improve so much.

There are plenty of people it would help. But there are likely quite a few it would really hurt, losing access to distant family or support.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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I assume by default the true motive behind this is surveilling and outing gay and lgbt youth, thought-policing and suppressing progressive political speech and activism. I don't trust the motives of any red state in this regard.

You’re downvoted; but this is the obvious result. Mormons in the state don’t want their kids learning about sex or have good sex or find out all the contradictions in their holy book and they don’t want to find out that what their parents are doing is serious and scary manipulation and abuse and so banning their access to the internet is a way to protect the families and “protect” the children.

I think you and the parent comment are off base. I have no concrete evidence of that, but in a very blue Massachusetts, most parents I know begrudgingly allow their children on social media, and only to the extent required to prevent their children from being social outcasts. Social media has very real negative consequences for a lot of kids (and adults). I don’t think this is a red team/blue team game.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Next, they should limit boomer social media access. And then everyone in between. "...Meta said it has robust tools to keep children safe." Sure. -- Watching the socials get lumped into the same moral category as cigarettes, domestic abuse, the Sacklers, and cable news, is giving me a bit of schadenfreude. Don't worry. My joy won't last.

Very weird feeling I have here, in China. For once, I feel it's the americans following us. What's next, limiting online video game time ??

For me this is a public health measure. If video games were shown to have a similarly destructive effect on our youth I'd consider regulating that too.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Sure, let's blame social media for the troubles of our youth. It's not the endless wars. It's not the endless poverty. It's not the endless divisiveness. It's not the endless media fearmongering of X or Y. It's TikTok. It's Instagram. Etc.

Good points. But 3 and 4 are partly caused by social media I think.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Whether this is a reasonable law or not, my big problem with it is that it puts the burden of enforcement on tech platforms rather than the kids' parents. There is no way for any company to check for something like this without also affecting every other user of the site, whether they are in Utah or not and whether they are a teen or not. What do they do exactly, start collecting government IDs from us before every v…

You could say the same thing about cigarette and alcohol sales.

ID checks are far easier in person than over the internet.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Sure, let's blame social media for the troubles of our youth. It's not the endless wars. It's not the endless poverty. It's not the endless divisiveness. It's not the endless media fearmongering of X or Y. It's TikTok. It's Instagram. Etc.

As a parent, restricting social media is one of the most effective tools I think we have to promote well being. The things you mentioned are also problematic but I can limit social media access and when I do my kids are better off.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Call their bluff - don’t make your service available in Utah.

I live in Utah. If that's what happens, that would be awesome! "Sorry kids, no fb/tiktok/insta and there's nothing I can do about it. None of them work where we live" Would be a huge win for all parents. No social media, and we don't have to be the bad guys taking it away.

Hopefully this is hyperbole. Seems a bit extreme to hope the government legislates away industries because you don't want to handle the parenting yourself.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Sure, let's blame social media for the troubles of our youth. It's not the endless wars. It's not the endless poverty. It's not the endless divisiveness. It's not the endless media fearmongering of X or Y. It's TikTok. It's Instagram. Etc.

Good points. But 3 and 4 are partly caused by social media I think.

They did it plenty before social media. That just accelerated the spread of individual stories.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Call their bluff - don’t make your service available in Utah.

I live in Utah. If that's what happens, that would be awesome! "Sorry kids, no fb/tiktok/insta and there's nothing I can do about it. None of them work where we live" Would be a huge win for all parents. No social media, and we don't have to be the bad guys taking it away.

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