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Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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this is a crappy headline. by trying to put some age limit on things, they're forcing absolutely everyone to give up their identity to the government / sites.

And is that bad or something? If you want to use a harmful product (and make no mistake social apps are harmful), then being careful about who is using it is a good idea.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Whether this is a reasonable law or not, my big problem with it is that it puts the burden of enforcement on tech platforms rather than the kids' parents. There is no way for any company to check for something like this without also affecting every other user of the site, whether they are in Utah or not and whether they are a teen or not. What do they do exactly, start collecting government IDs from us before every v…

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Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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I assume by default the true motive behind this is surveilling and outing gay and lgbt youth, thought-policing and suppressing progressive political speech and activism. I don't trust the motives of any red state in this regard.

You’re downvoted; but this is the obvious result. Mormons in the state don’t want their kids learning about sex or have good sex or find out all the contradictions in their holy book and they don’t want to find out that what their parents are doing is serious and scary manipulation and abuse and so banning their access to the internet is a way to protect the families and “protect” the children.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

#54

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There was a time when what Barlow wrote spoke to a lot of hackers out in the world. Maybe that's not how the world is today, sadly.

Gonna be honest, it’s kind of cringey. I don’t think the sentiment is disagreed with here, but the fact that it sounds like an overzealous dungeon master.

I'll give you honesty right back: back then, most of us either were overzealous dungeon masters or had one as a close friend.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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post #19

I assume by default the true motive behind this is surveilling and outing gay and lgbt youth, thought-policing and suppressing progressive political speech and activism. I don't trust the motives of any red state in this regard.

I would rather argue it is again easier to treat the symptoms rather than address underlying issues - regulate the toxic platforms. Similarly like smoking, the please don't smoke signs and over counter sales have not really helped until advertisement was largely prohibited/limited.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Software Developer is the most common job in Utah, it's kind of surprising this happened despite that.

It's not surprising at all for Utah. That is a highly Mormon run state that has strong stances on how you should live your life. Even if you are a "goi" (I use the word loosely to illustrate the cultural metaphor in a us v them mentality) to them. What is amazing is that they have this strong stance on how to restrictively govern the people inside their borders, but yet expect to have a western lifestyle support them…

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Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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We as a society have decided you need an ID for alcohol, and ID for marijuana in the states where it is legal, and so forth. We know that social media can be just as habit-forming, addictive, and dangerous to mental health; especially among teenagers. I see no reason why society should not extend ID requirements to certain times of night.

An important difference being the ID’s purpose being just to prove your age during for that transaction, not provide a mechanism to create a permanent record of your behavior.

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