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Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

xwolfi wrote: post #5
specialist wrote: post #3

Next, they should limit boomer social media access. And then everyone in between. "...Meta said it has robust tools to keep children safe." Sure. -- Watching the socials get lumped into the same moral category as cigarettes, domestic abuse, the Sacklers, and cable news, is giving me a bit of schadenfreude. Don't worry. My joy won't last.

Very weird feeling I have here, in China. For once, I feel it's the americans following us. What's next, limiting online video game time ??

We are talking about banning china owned TikTok in the USA, which would be like banning US owned Facebook in china. So ya, maybe you have a point?

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Post by ketzo »

etimberg wrote: post #10

Related, but my prediction is that by the end of the decade internet anonymity will be gone forever. Social will be the first place it falls with governments requiring SSO to a government run IdP that is verified by ID

I could get behind this prediction just because it feels like you could take literally any political affiliation and still end up pushing for it.

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Post by kube-system »

xwolfi wrote: post #5
specialist wrote: post #3

Next, they should limit boomer social media access. And then everyone in between. "...Meta said it has robust tools to keep children safe." Sure. -- Watching the socials get lumped into the same moral category as cigarettes, domestic abuse, the Sacklers, and cable news, is giving me a bit of schadenfreude. Don't worry. My joy won't last.

Very weird feeling I have here, in China. For once, I feel it's the americans following us. What's next, limiting online video game time ??

I feel like it is a universally constant thing for some subset of people to want their government to “force those other people to do what I think they should be doing”.

The only the US does relatively well is to provide mechanisms to reverse course when these things happen. Which is also why a lot of changes end up in gridlock.

Which I suspect will happen soon in this case.

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Post by s5300 »

specialist wrote: post #3

Next, they should limit boomer social media access. And then everyone in between. "...Meta said it has robust tools to keep children safe." Sure. -- Watching the socials get lumped into the same moral category as cigarettes, domestic abuse, the Sacklers, and cable news, is giving me a bit of schadenfreude. Don't worry. My joy won't last.

I find what Facebook has done to a non-negligible portion of boomers to be a morbid & highly interesting phenomenon.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Post by paxys »

Whether this is a reasonable law or not, my big problem with it is that it puts the burden of enforcement on tech platforms rather than the kids' parents. There is no way for any company to check for something like this without also affecting every other user of the site, whether they are in Utah or not and whether they are a teen or not. What do they do exactly, start collecting government IDs from us before every visit?

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Post by paxys »

etimberg wrote: post #10

Related, but my prediction is that by the end of the decade internet anonymity will be gone forever. Social will be the first place it falls with governments requiring SSO to a government run IdP that is verified by ID

End of anonymity and end of large scale unfiltered user-generated content. The internet is going to become like every other form of information media where a tiny group of people/companies is publishing and the rest of us are consuming, no questions asked.

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Post by taylodl »

paxys wrote: post #16

Whether this is a reasonable law or not, my big problem with it is that it puts the burden of enforcement on tech platforms rather than the kids' parents. There is no way for any company to check for something like this without also affecting every other user of the site, whether they are in Utah or not and whether they are a teen or not. What do they do exactly, start collecting government IDs from us before every v…

Call their bluff - don’t make your service available in Utah.

Re: Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access

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Post by capableweb »

Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind. On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where we gather.

We have no elected government, nor are we likely to have one, so I address you with no greater authority than that with which liberty itself always speaks. I declare the global social space we are building to be naturally independent of the tyrannies you seek to impose on us. You have no moral right to rule us nor do you possess any methods of enforcement we have true reason to fear.

A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace

https://www.eff.org/cyberspace-independence

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