It is a shame, what is the harm in giving Khalistan maybe not a national sovereignty but at least a statehood. The same has been denied to several areas, bundelkhand, mithilanchal, are a few that come to mind. Why does jharkhand and telangana get to have a claim to statehood but these other regions do not. Let the people vote and ratify it or else let the fight continue.
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#32The shutdown aside, the “activist” is a separatist and terrorist. Quite the use of words there by wired and even Wikipedia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amritpal_Singh_(activist)
Separatist movements start when people are oppressed and their grievances aren't addressed. Everyone acts like lines drawn on maps 60+ years ago are some holy sacrament. Let the region hold self determination votes.
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Precisely. Out of no malice at all, the bodies ended up incinerated, the incriminating evidence, files, phone call records some how managed to get lost, police staff working on the case transferred, whistle blower minister pursuing the issue died out of not at all mysterious circumstances [0]. All in all it set a new standard on how pogroms are to be run. But the bottom-line lies in the fact that it had implicit supp…
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No. All I am saying is that multiple strange coincidences happens all the time, just a collection of many many coincidences, and bodies missing or charred beyond recognition, whistle blower deaths [0]. Move along, nothing to see here.
Coincidences like speeches getting cut out at the parliament when a opposition party member was speaking, no malice at all, just a well timed 'technical error'[1]
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haren_Pandya#2002_Gujarat_riot...
[1] https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/amid-uproar-in-parliament-co...
In a land where COVID deaths gets recorded on certificates as anything but COVID, you call for evidence ? That is so ... 90s pre-truth.
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Separatist yes. I wouldn't go as far as calling him a terrorist until allegations of planned terrorist attacks are confirmed by neutral parties. While he's running an org that has voolent clashed with police, there hasn't been any proper terrorist attacks by Khalistanis this time around a la the bombing of Air India Flight 182 (and attempted bombing of Flight 301) back in the day. More accurate to just call him a vio…
Definition of a domestic terrorist per the FBI: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature. I feel a lot of arguments on “that’s not terrorism” come in when it doesn’t affect the western countries. Just because an organization hasn’t committed any recent a…
Based off this definition George Washington would have been a terrorist
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Definition of a domestic terrorist per the FBI: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature. I feel a lot of arguments on “that’s not terrorism” come in when it doesn’t affect the western countries. Just because an organization hasn’t committed any recent a…
Based off this definition George Washington would have been a terrorist
And judging by the response of the then administration (the brits) that would be correct?
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The Wikipedia article is biased and naively relies on Indian state media. Singh is not a terrorist which is an easy call since he’s never committed any acts of terrorism. He’s a preacher and most of his sermons are the sort of benign stuff you’d expect (stop doing drugs, be a good member of the community, etc). Definitely a separatist but given the inhumane torture and imprisonment India has inflicted on everyday Sik…
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40 years is nothing. So if you father was assaulted, your mother was harassed, your son was killed, or your daughter was raped, you’d forgive and forget in your lifetime? Every Sikh knows someone that suffered unimaginably and the Indian state police was either the direct perpetrator or knowingly refused to stop it. Those kinds of scars won’t heal quick and anyone that expects them to is hopelessly naive
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Separatist movements start when people are oppressed and their grievances aren't addressed. Everyone acts like lines drawn on maps 60+ years ago are some holy sacrament. Let the region hold self determination votes.
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> small number of religious lunatics
That's a very bigoted thing to say.
If Luxembourg can be it's own country, surely Punjab can be too. Why would you want to force people that have nothing in common with you to be in the same state? It defies all logic, unless the capital is exploiting those people in some way (likely).
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#39It is a shame, what is the harm in giving Khalistan maybe not a national sovereignty but at least a statehood. The same has been denied to several areas, bundelkhand, mithilanchal, are a few that come to mind. Why does jharkhand and telangana get to have a claim to statehood but these other regions do not. Let the people vote and ratify it or else let the fight continue.
Maybe you don't know that there's already a state named Punjab with Sikh majority population. Khalistanis wants to create a separate country with Sikh majority.
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#40The shutdown aside, the “activist” is a separatist and terrorist. Quite the use of words there by wired and even Wikipedia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amritpal_Singh_(activist)
Is being a separatist something bad?
For example imagine you are part of the USSR, but not Russia, instead you are in Latvia. Not wanting to be part of USSR, makes you are a separatist. Is there something bad in it?