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Researchers are trying to mitigate the spread of wild pigs in Canada

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Re: Researchers are trying to mitigate the spread of wild pigs in Canada

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People in Canada and the northern U.S. should report any sightings of feral pigs to their local conservation officers and to the Squeal on Pigs program Why do they have a link at the end of the article asking people in Canada to report the pigs to the Montana government? [1] Are the US and Canada putting in a temporary agreement to allow Montana hunters into Canada to thin the herd and if so are they bringing disease…

What do you mean by disease testing centers?

Re: Researchers are trying to mitigate the spread of wild pigs in Canada

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Most of those pigs are, by western standards, inedible. With the exception of the very young adults (and the piglets), their meat is tough and has a very objectionable gamer/musty/garbage-y flavor. Texas is contending with a similar problem, and if Texans can’t find a way to eat them, you know that meat is worthless.

Is this a problem that can be solved with enough chili powder? I'm not a terribly picky eater or familiar with wild game, just have a lot of confidence in gastro science.

How much chilli powder does it take to kill parasites?

Re: Researchers are trying to mitigate the spread of wild pigs in Canada

#73
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I wonder if you can shoot them from drones? That could be interesting.

IIRC flying a reaper drone and firing hellfire missiles is insanely expensive, so unless those pigs are terrorists, fly spy balloons, have massive oil reserves or made up weapons of mass destructions, it'll never come to drone strikes. Maybe we can get them to the negotiations table and broker a peace deal with the super pig regime and turn them into an ally.

If I was a defense contractor, I would kick off a research program for an explosive weapon that was guaranteed to kill the hog and reliably cook the giblets into instantly edible bacon.

For any VCs reading this, please wire me funding at your convenience.

Re: Researchers are trying to mitigate the spread of wild pigs in Canada

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People in Canada and the northern U.S. should report any sightings of feral pigs to their local conservation officers and to the Squeal on Pigs program Why do they have a link at the end of the article asking people in Canada to report the pigs to the Montana government? [1] Are the US and Canada putting in a temporary agreement to allow Montana hunters into Canada to thin the herd and if so are they bringing disease…

> article asking people in Canada to report the pigs to the Montana government

This is too laughable, and it's not even that far out of context.

Re: Researchers are trying to mitigate the spread of wild pigs in Canada

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selling wild game appears to be illegal in Canada like it is in the US. Ostensibly the reason is because of risk of illness but it's likely also due to lobbying by farmers. I think there's a solution staring at us in the face here

Canadian hunter here.

From my understanding this is mostly to avoid poaching.

At least here in QC hunting laws are extremely strict to protect the populations. I believe other provinces have similar laws (it's a provincial jurisdiction)

It's too bad that the meat from these is inedible, but I wonder if it's related to their diet. Maybe some soy field diet would make them more palatable?

Re: Researchers are trying to mitigate the spread of wild pigs in Canada

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The solution is to eat them. It's humane and it's free range pork. Let rural butchers test and certify the meat and sell it to local restaurants as a super premium product, then leverage the now all electronic game tag system for supply chain management. The only thing standing in the way of solving the feral pig problem is the attitudes of the urban governing class toward people capable of hunting and our histrionic…

Ah here is the issue, feral pig meat isn’t really pork the way most people know it. It’s gamey and often parasite ridden.

Maybe the solution is to kill the parasites, through detection and processing technology, and spraying habitats.

If we really can't eat them, the other solution is to use chemistry to make something that feral pigs get addicted to and that they will give up food, sex, and nursing their young in pursuit of, and which is a human controlled substance we can manage. Drop enough of it in their habitats that they can always become dependent. If you just try to poison them, you kill off their own competition for food and just create more resilliant ones, but creating a chemical dependency where they will seek out sources that humans control would provide the lever to manage the population.

This solution is related to one I commented on about the rat population in new york city. Just make something they want. I should do a startup, we could call it Pied Piper.

Re: Researchers are trying to mitigate the spread of wild pigs in Canada

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CBC has an article [1] with more pictures of the pigs themselves, tusks and all, as well as their typical weight.

Over 300 pounds! Largest recorded was 640 lbs.

They remind me more of wild zebras than friendly farm oinkers.

[1] https://www.cbc.ca/kidsnews/post/why-canadas-super-pigs-migh...

Re: Researchers are trying to mitigate the spread of wild pigs in Canada

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In Texas we trap them, blow them up, shoot them from helicopters, and shoot them from quads while chasing them at 50mph. They're too smart to shoot them from a standing position. I've seen packs of 15-20 running along together while riding my motorcycle along county roads in the middle of nowhere, San Saba County. But they normally stay out of sight; they're super smart. Good luck.

Shooting from quads sounds very dangerous (for the shooter).

Re: Researchers are trying to mitigate the spread of wild pigs in Canada

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People in Canada and the northern U.S. should report any sightings of feral pigs to their local conservation officers and to the Squeal on Pigs program Why do they have a link at the end of the article asking people in Canada to report the pigs to the Montana government? [1] Are the US and Canada putting in a temporary agreement to allow Montana hunters into Canada to thin the herd and if so are they bringing disease…

What do you mean by disease testing centers?

Hunters have animals tested for a myriad of diseases prior to being consumed. There are some diseases that spread to humans and some that have not yet spread but will be world changing events when they do. Deer and Elk around me for example are tested for Chronic Wasting Disease which is a misfolded prion disease with no cure. [1] It's why I make 30 food piles for 28 deer every day.

Feral swine can carry several diseases that can be passed to humans such as leptospirosis, toxoplasmosis, brucellosis, tularemia, trichinellosis, swine influenza, salmonella, hepatitis and pathogenic E. coli. [2] They can also spread this to your pets and livestock. Brucellosis has been a recent problem in Montana for example.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_wasting_disease

[2] - https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/wildlifedamage/ope...

Re: Researchers are trying to mitigate the spread of wild pigs in Canada

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of those pigs are, by western standards, inedible. With the exception of the very young adults (and the piglets), their meat is tough and has a very objectionable gamer/musty/garbage-y flavor. Texas is contending with a similar problem, and if Texans can’t find a way to eat them, you know that meat is worthless.

But isn't that true of most any game meat? I've heard that bear meat can be tough and grisly, but I was told it depends on how you butcher it.

I've eaten deer, moose and even beaver from hunting and trapping. They will taste amazing if handled well and given early to a butcher.

Old bucks don't taste as good, but younger deer have amazingly tender meat.

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