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“Can we ban iPhone in retaliation?” Chinese internet reacts to TikTok hearing
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
6 hours of testimony that, at most, 2-3% of the country even glanced at is a spectacle in your eyes? This looks like splitting, or you're deliberately failing to understand how lawmaking works and the importance of making informed decisions at the federal level, in the long term. Congress constantly grills CEOs, the elite, and victims because it is understood that they reshape society, sometimes for the worse, not al…
The US idea of a committee hearing is pure spectacle. There is a reason it doesn’t really exist in any other country. Everything that was achieve here could have been achieve through usual channels of communication with companies and the private sector. It just wouldn’t look as good on TV.
Communication requires two parties, through what other channel is the entire US public to formally express it's concerns to the company?
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#33Hasn't China been preemptively retaliating since 2000? Among FAANG only Apple still works. And FANG is actually the surname of the father of the Great Firewall. (Fang Binxing)
Not really, they either pulled out or got banned because they wouldn't remove content that broke Chinese law, any Chinese company who did the same would also be banned.
Tiktok hasn't broken any American laws that result in more than fine.
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#34One company or product isn't going to be that important in the long run. What is more concerning here is if the US is being out-competed to the point where they have to take legislative action. If they make a habit of that, it means that they are making some deep mistakes in their regulatory structure. The Chinese managed to do something here that the EU, Africa and India didn't manage. Traditionally (eg, vs the USSR…
Why are you assuming that US tech companies being out competed is necessarily due to US regulation? Maybe they just fucked up and lost the all-important youth attention market on their own. I don't see any reason to think something other than that actually.
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#35s '/ban iPhone/ban Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter/' seems more reasonable.
Aren't all those things already blocked/banned in China? (since 2009). (I feel like a joke might be wooshing over my head here).
Google and Facebook had the option of operating in China under conditions somewhat similar to TikTok’s project Texas: servers in China, operating under local laws, supporting authorities in surveillance and censorship.
Apple and Microsoft operate services under those conditions in China.
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#36One company or product isn't going to be that important in the long run. What is more concerning here is if the US is being out-competed to the point where they have to take legislative action. If they make a habit of that, it means that they are making some deep mistakes in their regulatory structure. The Chinese managed to do something here that the EU, Africa and India didn't manage. Traditionally (eg, vs the USSR…
Tiktok success is literally the result of vine shutting down.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suspect that's already been done a few times - but the CCP did not want a public spectacle, and the US Congress did.
6 hours of testimony that, at most, 2-3% of the country even glanced at is a spectacle in your eyes? This looks like splitting, or you're deliberately failing to understand how lawmaking works and the importance of making informed decisions at the federal level, in the long term. Congress constantly grills CEOs, the elite, and victims because it is understood that they reshape society, sometimes for the worse, not al…
Did you watch those hearings? Spectacle is a very generous word.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
6 hours of testimony that, at most, 2-3% of the country even glanced at is a spectacle in your eyes? This looks like splitting, or you're deliberately failing to understand how lawmaking works and the importance of making informed decisions at the federal level, in the long term. Congress constantly grills CEOs, the elite, and victims because it is understood that they reshape society, sometimes for the worse, not al…
The US idea of a committee hearing is pure spectacle. There is a reason it doesn’t really exist in any other country. Everything that was achieve here could have been achieve through usual channels of communication with companies and the private sector. It just wouldn’t look as good on TV.
It does exist in many other countries.
The reason you don't know it is because the CEOs of the biggest corporations in the world don't live there, so it doesn't get any media attention.
Who cares about the grilling of the CEO of Royal Mail in the UK?
If you do, here you can watch it
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course they do. It's got another name (抖音) but it's basically the same exact product.
it’s the same product but they only allow educational content and stuff that promotes Chinese hegemony. They let the rest of the world have nyquil chicken.
That's false. You can download the app and check yourself.
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#40I'm just waiting for someone to make an open-source TikTok analog that can just replace the functionality with a platform not controlled by a single party .. we still have that dream right, cryptonerds? Seems like the best solution to the problem.
Who's going to pay for that? Not only the software, but the video hosting, transcoding, etc. And don't tell me you can do it with p2p - the entire point of tiktok is that you can load new videos by swiping your finger. If every video takes 10 seconds to begin buffering nobody will want to use your app.
I heard these same arguments about the Linux kernel, back in the days before it came along and ate everyones' lunch.
This app can be built, quite easily, by anyone motivated to do so. Just like the kernel, just like a distribution vendor, just like any one of the thousands of highly successful open source, community-oriented projects out there.