Does the Chinese internet literally not know about the Chinese bans of Facebook, YouTube, etc. or is that one guy just an idiot?
The TikTok Hearings Inspired Little Faith in Social Media or in Congress
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#12I can't help but wonder if other countries are watching these proceedings and wondering about their own national security. The US is concerned about misinformation, blackmail, and influence campaigns, but is the US using the data that FANG has access to do it to other countries? Are they just trying to keep a monopoly on that power? We can see hints that the US is using these platforms to do that. Imagine the negotia…
It will be far better having US as dominant power than having the axis countries like China, Russia, Iran. I prefer democracy over dictatorship what about you? The difference between relation of US companies and government vs Chinese companies and government, US companies often go head-to-head with the government on policies, or they will need "lobby" it, but for Chinese companies, Chinese government have communist p…
> It will be far better having US as dominant power than having the axis countries like China, Russia, Iran.
For us in Europe, that's certainly true. For someone in South America where the US had installed some dictator, or funded and trained some paramilitary groups to clear lands for US fruit companies, I don't think that answer is quite as clear.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
It will be far better having US as dominant power than having the axis countries like China, Russia, Iran. I prefer democracy over dictatorship what about you? The difference between relation of US companies and government vs Chinese companies and government, US companies often go head-to-head with the government on policies, or they will need "lobby" it, but for Chinese companies, Chinese government have communist p…
> It will be far better having US as dominant power than having the axis countries like China, Russia, Iran. For us in Europe, that's certainly true. For someone in South America where the US had installed some dictator, or funded and trained some paramilitary groups to clear lands for US fruit companies, I don't think that answer is quite as clear.
Let's be fair, the US has installed and supported plenty of dictators in Europe. In Greece, Spain and Romania at least the US has strongly supported the dictators there.
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#14There seems to be a lot of pro-congress sentiment ITT right now, which is worrying to me. TikTok is a capitalist social media company that certaily deserves a lot of scrutiny, especially considering ties to China. But if you think Congress did a good job here...then I don't know how we live in such wildly different worlds. Asking that CEO "does TikTok access the home wifi network?" is such an incomplete question. Eve…
Congress isn't exactly keen on American social media companies, either. Are Facebook's profits really that important to them?
As far as I can tell it's a since, but delusional, attempt to defend national security. They don't like American data going to China, and Chinese algorithms coming for American eyeballs. Which, same, but that's not actually illegal. And it's not clear why they imagine it's dangerous, other than old men yelling ay clouds.
I suspect they're really just afraid that the kids are enjoying something. So it's more like hauling Twisted Sister before Congress to justify their (really innocuous and vapid) rebelliousness.
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#15There seems to be a lot of pro-congress sentiment ITT right now, which is worrying to me. TikTok is a capitalist social media company that certaily deserves a lot of scrutiny, especially considering ties to China. But if you think Congress did a good job here...then I don't know how we live in such wildly different worlds. Asking that CEO "does TikTok access the home wifi network?" is such an incomplete question. Eve…
Congress isn't exactly keen on American social media companies, either. Are Facebook's profits really that important to them? As far as I can tell it's a since, but delusional, attempt to defend national security. They don't like American data going to China, and Chinese algorithms coming for American eyeballs. Which, same, but that's not actually illegal. And it's not clear why they imagine it's dangerous, other tha…
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#16It is crazy US takes so long still not banning TikTok. Anyone think Chinese Communist Party has nothing to do with ByteDance, TikTok are stupid and naive, and if you believe a single word the Chinese Communist Party is even more stupid. Look at Twitter, Facebook, Google, Instagram, even TikTok and many more tech companies are banned in China, what on Earth are the Americans' thinking? You guys are holy saints to thin…
One of the best things and worst things about America is the first amendment. It is amazing that you can say or make just about anything without the government jailing you or shutting you down.
It feels horrible because that freedom necessitates people who believe everyone else has the same ability to say or make anything they want, even if you find that stuff disgusting or risky.
Yes, there are definitely some limits to the right. But we should be cautious about the government making laws to restrict the right.
Should we ban an entire company or force them to sell as soon as we believe they give personal data to another country? Where is the line drawn at which country? What about a Russian based app or a Belarusian based app?
I'm not saying it's wrong, it just makes me nervous.
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#17Yes? Did anyone expect it to? Most congressional hearings I’ve seen in the last several years have made me physically cringe.
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#18I can't help but wonder if other countries are watching these proceedings and wondering about their own national security. The US is concerned about misinformation, blackmail, and influence campaigns, but is the US using the data that FANG has access to do it to other countries? Are they just trying to keep a monopoly on that power? We can see hints that the US is using these platforms to do that. Imagine the negotia…
It will be far better having US as dominant power than having the axis countries like China, Russia, Iran. I prefer democracy over dictatorship what about you? The difference between relation of US companies and government vs Chinese companies and government, US companies often go head-to-head with the government on policies, or they will need "lobby" it, but for Chinese companies, Chinese government have communist p…
> I prefer democracy over dictatorship what about you?
Where exactly would you like to have that? I guess not in South America, or any other country where the US world order was better off with a dictatorship rather than a democracy. Snap out of the stupor, my friend. The US has only one interest in mind and it’s not the interest of democracy, but rather that of the military industrial complex.
You can keep on drinking the cool aid, or actually support democracy, which would make you less keen on the theatrics that the US is struggling to keep up.
I’m not pro China, I believe in the European social democratic post-capitalism, possibly with less capitalism and more social democracy and wealth redistribution. From this perspective, the US is doing worse than China.
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#20There seems to be a lot of pro-congress sentiment ITT right now, which is worrying to me. TikTok is a capitalist social media company that certaily deserves a lot of scrutiny, especially considering ties to China. But if you think Congress did a good job here...then I don't know how we live in such wildly different worlds. Asking that CEO "does TikTok access the home wifi network?" is such an incomplete question. Eve…
The WIFI one is just so embarrassing. Like yes there are legitimate questions to be asked about data privacy but some of these questions don't even make sense as questions at all.