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Re: Gordon Moore has died

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Wow, we have lost a true legend. As I get older, I marvel a bit at the giants I once shared time on the earth with. Sometimes it feels like we don't have giants in the 21st century in the same way.

I sometimes make myself a mental list of famous people who are expected to die soon. The following people will all die in the next few years: Jimmy Carter (98), Henry Kissinger (99), Dick Cheney (82), Pope Francis (86), Paul McCartney (80), John Williams (91), William Shatner (92), and Ali Khamenei (83).

There is a website for such predictions: https://deathlist.net/

Re: Gordon Moore has died

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post #111

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No it doesn’t - take that singularity bullshit elsewhere. Gordon Moore never aligned himself with that pseudoscientific nonsense https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/cs181/projects/2010-...

Can you please make your substantive points without name-calling? It's not hard, and we're trying for something a bit different from internet default here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Was there an edit? I don't see any name-calling in GP.

Re: Gordon Moore has died

#134

Wow, we have lost a true legend. As I get older, I marvel a bit at the giants I once shared time on the earth with. Sometimes it feels like we don't have giants in the 21st century in the same way.

It takes time to understand who is the true giant. Robert Metcalfe just received the ACM Turing award last week and his contributions where from the 70's. It's the same with Nobel laureates, it takes year for your work to be recognized.

Re: Gordon Moore has died

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post #120

How incredible is it, that I'm writing software on a laptop, connected to the internet over wifi, all while being 38,000 feet in the air. And all this enabled by billions of tiny transistors made from sand. And to make this all the more surreal, I'm sitting next to someone who knew him. Thank you Gordon Moore. RIP.

> I'm sitting next to someone who knew him Is this person someone who is (was) traveling with you, and therefore you knew that he/she knew Gordon Moore, or did you just got to know this person by random chance? Given he/she knew him, can you ask to share some memories, and post it here? RIP.

Random chance

Re: Gordon Moore has died

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post #113

I once got the opportunity to ask Gordon Moore a question, “what is the equivalent of Moore’s Law for software?” His response, “number of bugs doubles every year”. Great man.

I suspect the same holds true for hardware bugs in silicon, given the increasing complexity of CPUs. ;)

Maybe I'm naive but i think hardware cannot afford such condition. Even the name is a hint, software was termed so because it was easier to modify, allowing more errors to get in because you can fix it later at a lower cost.

Re: Gordon Moore has died

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post #58

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Sad to say, I think his law died with him.

One of the earlier scaling laws of computing. Now we're into AI scaling laws.

It has probably just always been an exponential and any curve can be a straight line if you zoom far enough in and Moore's law was just that. Now we've got some perspective and are starting to see the actual exponential.

Re: Gordon Moore has died

#138

Wow, we have lost a true legend. As I get older, I marvel a bit at the giants I once shared time on the earth with. Sometimes it feels like we don't have giants in the 21st century in the same way.

I sometimes make myself a mental list of famous people who are expected to die soon. The following people will all die in the next few years: Jimmy Carter (98), Henry Kissinger (99), Dick Cheney (82), Pope Francis (86), Paul McCartney (80), John Williams (91), William Shatner (92), and Ali Khamenei (83).

Attenborough. That will be the end of our planet's conscience, symbolic of the era where we discovered how truly incredible a place we live in, and what we are doing to it.

Re: Gordon Moore has died

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I once got the opportunity to ask Gordon Moore a question, “what is the equivalent of Moore’s Law for software?” His response, “number of bugs doubles every year”. Great man.

Since IIRC bug count is roughly proportional to source code line count, this implies the aggregate complexity of software doubles too. That might sound foreign, but if you think duplicated effort and accidental complexity rather than problem domain complexity it wouldn't surprise me if it was close to true.

Points to the value of sticking close to the problem domain.

Re: Gordon Moore has died

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post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect the same holds true for hardware bugs in silicon, given the increasing complexity of CPUs. ;)

Maybe I'm naive but i think hardware cannot afford such condition. Even the name is a hint, software was termed so because it was easier to modify, allowing more errors to get in because you can fix it later at a lower cost.

Reading errata for Intel/AMD processors would be an eye opening experience then.

There are so many bugs in features you never heard of, just like software. It is inevitable given the complexity.

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