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Super Cheap Virtual Private Servers - the Wild West of Hosting

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Re: Super Cheap Virtual Private Servers - the Wild West of Hosting

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Part of why this can be so cheap is density.

The Parallels Virtuozzo / OpenVZ container-based approach to virtualization is just so infinitely more efficient than hypervisor-based virtualization. It's really, really staggering. We use it where I work for internal virtualization and have done tests with thousands of containers on a box that could hold at most 20-30 KVM-based hypervisor instances.

If you look into the deep tech details, it becomes immediately obvious why this is the case. It's too bad this isn't in the mainline Linux kernel. There is an effort called LXC, but it is behind OpenVZ/Virtuozzo, especially in the security department.

The only disadvantage is that you can't run your own kernel, but for 99.9% of Linux applications this does not matter. You can do quite a bit inside a container: OpenVPN, IPSec, Fuse, IPTables, bridging, etc.

For personal hosting, I've had very good luck with this one: http://alienvps.com/

I have their "abduction" plan -- a very very cheap one not advertised on the homepage. It's very small, but I've managed to cram a stripped-down MySQL and Lighttpd LAMP stack in there for my personal sites. You can't beat the price, and so far I've had no downtime or issues.

Re: Super Cheap Virtual Private Servers - the Wild West of Hosting

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post #41

Part of why this can be so cheap is density. The Parallels Virtuozzo / OpenVZ container-based approach to virtualization is just so infinitely more efficient than hypervisor-based virtualization. It's really, really staggering. We use it where I work for internal virtualization and have done tests with thousands of containers on a box that could hold at most 20-30 KVM-based hypervisor instances. If you look into the…

Part of why this can be so cheap is density.

This is also the reason why performance is usually beyond terrible. Most of the cheap VPS hosts are extremely overprovisioned and not very well maintained. There may be the odd gem (I haven't tried alien), but $130 buys you a rackspace VM for a year nowadays, so I don't see the point of even bothering anymore.

Re: Super Cheap Virtual Private Servers - the Wild West of Hosting

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So I thought I give empire-hosting a try to play with a cheap box. >>> Thank you for signing up with us. Your new account has been setup and you can now login to our client area using the details below. Email Address: my.mail@address Password: YepYouGuessWhatWasRightHereInCleartext To login, visit http://secure.empire-hosting.net Ah well.. Let's look at the other recommendations of that list, I guess.

Interesting, how would your perception change if the email included a notice saying something to the effect of, "here is you password... rest assured, we have not stored it on our system. Please memorize it and delete this email for maximum security"? Of course, you really need to protect your email as much as possible. If someone gains access to your email, they can pretty much ruin your day anyways. All they would…

Why would that help? His password was sent across an open network in plain text...

Re: Super Cheap Virtual Private Servers - the Wild West of Hosting

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Are there any good alternatives to Linode in Europe? I've been using them for years any not had any issues, I'm just wondering if there is anything cheaper, and also thinking about redundancy. Most of the VPS providers that I've seen are US based, which means 150ms+ pings, which isn't great for SSH.

https://www.jiffybox.de/ is excellent.

Re: Super Cheap Virtual Private Servers - the Wild West of Hosting

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I've been using ArpNetworks for a year now and I am very pleased with their service. $10 a month minimum, lightly loaded servers, and they also support OpenBSD and FreeBSD on KVM (beside linux) which is great (and rare). Very responsive support too.

http://arpnetworks.com

Re: Super Cheap Virtual Private Servers - the Wild West of Hosting

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Anyone here who knows/has experience with Hetzner? http://www.hetzner.de/en

I've been using one of their dedicated servers for almost two years now and am very happy with it.

My cousin has been using them for approx. 5 years and he's also very happy with them. He's also had them do a non-standard custom setup for a client before and that seems to have went well and painlessly.

Re: Super Cheap Virtual Private Servers - the Wild West of Hosting

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I would have liked to see some other factors weighed as well such as type of CPU used for systems, disk IO, service APIs, management tools. Considering that ~10Mbps was considered to be "blazing fast", I find the internet IO benchmark to be spurious. I just ran the same test from a Linode in Dallas and 18Mbps.

Re: Super Cheap Virtual Private Servers - the Wild West of Hosting

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Are there any good alternatives to Linode in Europe? I've been using them for years any not had any issues, I'm just wondering if there is anything cheaper, and also thinking about redundancy. Most of the VPS providers that I've seen are US based, which means 150ms+ pings, which isn't great for SSH.

I use www.glesys.se, they have hosting at two locations in Sweden, but also New York and Amsterdam. I'm quite happy with them for the 100 SEK i pay per month for some MFA sites.

Re: Super Cheap Virtual Private Servers - the Wild West of Hosting

#49

Are there any good alternatives to Linode in Europe? I've been using them for years any not had any issues, I'm just wondering if there is anything cheaper, and also thinking about redundancy. Most of the VPS providers that I've seen are US based, which means 150ms+ pings, which isn't great for SSH.

I am an happy Quickweb ( http://quickweb.co.nz ) customer. They are cheaper than Linode and they have some nice micro vps offers too. They are also providing hosting services to LEB ( http://www.lowendbox.com )

I am also happy Quickweb customer, although I only use their VPS for OpenVPN and to compile stuff on Linux. Stuff compiles more quickly on the VPS than on my 2010 MacBook Pro, which means processor and IO performance are good.

They've lost my data twice in a 2 year period, but for 4.95 a month I was kind of expecting it. But now they moved my VPS to another node and all should be fine. Which brings us to customer support: it is absolutely great and they respont to tickets very quickly.

So: use for non-critical stuff, backup, and be happy.

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