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UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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A lot of the inflation on food is increasingly feeling like businesses cashing in. For instance my old go to brand of breed increased by over 50% months ago.

At least where I am this is the case. Milk and milk products are at record highs, with some products nearly double what they were at the beginning of last year. Yet the milk companies actually cut how much they pay producers. Prices for energy and fuel are around the same as the end of 2021.

Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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Nixon's economic measures were a disaster that led to inflation and crisis. You can see that directly in your link btw.

That was not my point, but thanks for pointing out a paragraph in the source that I provided. I do notice a few 'citations needed' in the relevant clauses. Even so, if Nixon's policies resulted in failure that's not a reason for politicians today to just throw their hands in the air and declare that nothing can be done politically because "market dictates".

When you noodle around in the market "to do what's right", you end up creating a new set of problems down the road when the expectation of getting bailed out becomes part of the market's future calculations.

See: FED keeping rates low for over a decade leading to complacency at banks who assume if things get really bad, FED will pivot rate hikes and they'll get bailed out again.

Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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The lower class does suffer the most, but unfortunately it is the policies intended to help them which actually cause most of the problem. By giving money to people without producing more stuff - or even making it harder to produce the same - you MUST have inflation, rationing, or empty shelves - and often all three. The solution to allowing lower classes to have more stuff is to make it easier for everybody to produ…

>By giving money to people without producing more stuff - or even making it harder to produce the same - you MUST have inflation, rationing, or empty shelves - and often all three. Says who? Why can't the people producing stuff simply take lower profit margins instead?

First, because margins are razor-thin as it is. Second, because it's a mature market and penetration pricing is not profitable.

Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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Interestingly, it seems like even those products seemingly not affected by price inflation have taken a hit over here in the UK. In addition to that, we've also seen:

1. Products offering far smaller portion sizes than before, likely to an even more ridiculous degree than what was happening with things like crisps and chocolate already.

2. The taste and quality of a lot of food items getting worse (probably because the original ingredients got more expensive/became uneconomical to use).

So even products that stayed the same price seem to have suffered recently.

Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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As a person living in the UK, I have definitely noticed a considerable rise in unit prices. One of many examples is that a loaf of my favourite bread increased from £3 to £4 recently, which was a shocker. Toilet roll prices, as ever what the news loves to talk about, has exploded, increasing by around 70% since 2020 by my anecdotal observation. A sad thought I have about inflation is the fact that it is, wittingly or…

The lower class does suffer the most, but unfortunately it is the policies intended to help them which actually cause most of the problem. By giving money to people without producing more stuff - or even making it harder to produce the same - you MUST have inflation, rationing, or empty shelves - and often all three. The solution to allowing lower classes to have more stuff is to make it easier for everybody to produ…

I understand where you're for: patching things for some at the bottom doesn't help produce more.

But focusing on the alleged producers while fleecing the people in the middle (who are not the lower end either) is equally bad.

The people in the middle get high taxes, no real possiblity of ownership, no benefits of the bottom (state help) or of the top (the top just increases their own margins).

The top lobbies government and sets an unfair advantage for themselves, making the whole alleged democratic representation a farce.

The government should be more frugal with their won bureocracy and corruption and lower the taxes for the middle and bottom. The pretende that increasing conditions to the top will drip down is demonstrably false. It's mostly a rigged game, depending on where you started.

Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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post #167

As a person living in the UK, I have definitely noticed a considerable rise in unit prices. One of many examples is that a loaf of my favourite bread increased from £3 to £4 recently, which was a shocker. Toilet roll prices, as ever what the news loves to talk about, has exploded, increasing by around 70% since 2020 by my anecdotal observation. A sad thought I have about inflation is the fact that it is, wittingly or…

The lower class does suffer the most, but unfortunately it is the policies intended to help them which actually cause most of the problem. By giving money to people without producing more stuff - or even making it harder to produce the same - you MUST have inflation, rationing, or empty shelves - and often all three. The solution to allowing lower classes to have more stuff is to make it easier for everybody to produ…

What are the typical policies for getting more stuff produced?

Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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post #167

As a person living in the UK, I have definitely noticed a considerable rise in unit prices. One of many examples is that a loaf of my favourite bread increased from £3 to £4 recently, which was a shocker. Toilet roll prices, as ever what the news loves to talk about, has exploded, increasing by around 70% since 2020 by my anecdotal observation. A sad thought I have about inflation is the fact that it is, wittingly or…

What I want to know is what kind of bread costs 4 pounds? For people not in the UK: bread at a supermarket costs a quarter of that.

Perhaps a gluten free bread or some other special type?

Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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It has its moments. Just don't engaged in politics, social issues, economics or international relations. Actually what I'm describing is casualuk which is even wore for its banality some how.

So that leaves... film reviews?

Weirdly i think film reviews would be hastily deleted by the Jannies as "not-uk".

Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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Unless people who can afford it are hoarding groceries an increasing monetary base shouldn't be affecting grocery prices. Only a decrease in supply versus demand, or increase costs of production, should be increasing grocery prices, if market manipulations aren't happening.

It doesn't have to be groceries that they're buying. Factories in China producing non-essential consumer goods run off the same natural gas supplies that could otherwise be used to make fertiliser. Jets taking tourists on vacations run on basically the same fuel that could go into farmers' tractors or lorries transporting food to stores. More money allowing people to make more non-essential purchases impacts food sup…

Sure. But there's a more immediate impact to fossil fuel supplies in the UK than an increase in demand. An increase in demand from an increased money supply is likely a contributing factor, but not the sole cause that elevenoh4 says it is. Has fossil fuel demand even fully bounced back to what it was in 2019?
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