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UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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Meanwhile in Sweden the CEO of ICA, the largest supermarket chain in the country (53% of the market) said yesterday: "It is actually the consumer who controls what they are prepared to pay for a product. In the end, it is they who decide." https://omni.se/icas-vd-det-ar-kunderna-som-avgor-matpriset/...

"If the customer didn't want to pay high prices, they'd just not buy food. Supply and demand working as intended." – CEOs of all these companies

Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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For reference, that's a fairly average value for Europe at the moment. Not sure why the UK is being singled out. https://i.redd.it/8hbhiqhowjpa1.png

... because it's a UK industry publication, writing about and for the UK?

I understand the publisher writing about it. I meant being singled out on HN, many US readers here seem to think this a uniquely UK issue.

Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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Demand for food is inelastic, so it makes sense that companies are raising prices as high as possible since people still have to eat. Generally this leads to price competition from other food brands, but when single companies own dozens/hundreds of food brands it’s easy to act like a cartel and keep prices high.

Housing works the same way, and we've seen the result of that. If food distributors are able to coordinate price increases without direct collusion, expect it to go the way rent has.

Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Demand for food overall is inelastic, but the demand for specific foodstuffs is elastic. The measure of inflation we're discussing is across all foodstuffs.

Aren't you just confirming what they said?

Not really, people could eat cheaper food. Not to mention that most people eat too many calories.

Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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Meanwhile in Sweden the CEO of ICA, the largest supermarket chain in the country (53% of the market) said yesterday: "It is actually the consumer who controls what they are prepared to pay for a product. In the end, it is they who decide." https://omni.se/icas-vd-det-ar-kunderna-som-avgor-matpriset/...

The consumer decides what they are prepared to pay for a product, unless the demand is inelastic. And for food overall, the demand is inelastic. Consumers cannot just say "food is too expensive for me, so I think I'm going to to go without it this month". They can choose between the individual products they buy, so it wouldn't be a problem if just some food items got expensive. But the price of food overall is inflat…

> But the price of food overall is inflating.

I'm a senior programmer with outrageous salary, and I still paused yesterday looking at the price of beef. Went for chicken instead.

I wish inflation numbers would also include things like "percentage of income spent on just living: food and shelter"

Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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As a person living in the UK, I have definitely noticed a considerable rise in unit prices. One of many examples is that a loaf of my favourite bread increased from £3 to £4 recently, which was a shocker. Toilet roll prices, as ever what the news loves to talk about, has exploded, increasing by around 70% since 2020 by my anecdotal observation.

A sad thought I have about inflation is the fact that it is, wittingly or not, a weapon wielded by the rich against the middle and lower classes. In an inflationary economy, the winners are rich who have valuable assets whose value skyrocket - think real estate, businesses, etc.

The lower classes rely on A) proportionately much more on fiat, i.e. monthly paycheck going into current and savings account, and B) a blue-collar job, the wage of which always lags further behind inflation than white-collar jobs.

Those two factors combined means that the lower classes get absolutely battered, while the rich just sit gleefully as their asset values balloon and pass down wholesale price increases, etc.

It's the dark, sinister side of inflation, and I think we are all beginning to see the societal tensions that it is breeding, e.g. endless blue-collar UK worker union strikes, riots, protests, etc.

Not saying that it is only one class that is affected, but let's face reality here - the lower class suffers by far the most in this situation.

Re: UK: Food inflation rises to 18.2% as it hits highest rate in over 45 years

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Is this at least partially Brexit related? For comparison, the US has seen food go up by around 10% over the same time period, which is pretty high but also far from 18%. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.t02.htm

It feels Europe is becoming increasingly poor and unsafe, and the situation in the UK has worsened quite a bit since the start of Brexit. Anecdotally, seems there's a lot of British and European expats here in the Valley and they don't seem too keen on returning. We've been getting a lot of international applicants (but work from home was supposed to mean Europeans could avoid moving to the "dangerous" US but work fo…

Everything becomes less safe when inflation is on the rise. Every country has a different inflation formula (alongside the effects of "shadow inflation"), thus you can't compare 10% in country X with 18% in country Y. We're all in the same shit.

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Yet another sector where investment is low and prices are high. Over winter tomatoes were in short supply, not because we couldn't grow them, but because the methods of heating greenhouses were too expensive. CO2 heaters use gas in largely uninsulated greenhouses. A bit of creativity (solar thermal with storage supplying radiators) or just modernity (air source heat pumps) would have solved this problem. Alas, there…

The UK has some of the cheapest food in the developed world, I'm surprised to hear anyone say they're high.
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