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Re: Post-GPT Computing

#21

I don’t get the overall doom and gloom towards LLMs on the software field. If you are a software engineer, this will output your productivity ten fold on the upcoming years. Now you don’t need to hire junior devs and can just build the product of your dreams with very limited capital. In my opinion this technology will be as democratising as the YouTube’s early days. Instead of worrying, learn to work with it. It wil…

So who will hire the junior software devs?

Re: Post-GPT Computing

#22
In the last few weeks, I've noted on myself how I've been going through several stages of the Chat-GPT "disease", or whatever it is.

My first reaction was to be afraid for my money-making skills. My second reaction was fear about us ourselves making ourselves irrelevant--that fear still lingers.

My third wave of fright, cemented by days burning my eyes looking at a screen parsing logs and trying to figure out bugs for my corporate master, was, "when did my imagination go for a vacation? Old boy, don't tell me now that you have run out of ideas of things to make, of things to have an AI army to help you build." And now I dread that all of this AI is just hype, that it will never be good enough to come for our jobs without also coming for our jugulars, or that we will make it too damn expensive to matter[^1].

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[^1]: Capitalism has a way of leveraging economies of scale to make certain goods cheaper. But there are physical limits--what if Moore's law with regard to power consumption is really dead, and we as a collective really decide to spare power?

Re: Post-GPT Computing

#24

I don’t get the overall doom and gloom towards LLMs on the software field. If you are a software engineer, this will output your productivity ten fold on the upcoming years. Now you don’t need to hire junior devs and can just build the product of your dreams with very limited capital. In my opinion this technology will be as democratising as the YouTube’s early days. Instead of worrying, learn to work with it. It wil…

What happens when no junior devs are hired for 5 years? Who works their way up to replace the seniors who are leaving?

Re: Post-GPT Computing

#25

I don’t get the overall doom and gloom towards LLMs on the software field. If you are a software engineer, this will output your productivity ten fold on the upcoming years. Now you don’t need to hire junior devs and can just build the product of your dreams with very limited capital. In my opinion this technology will be as democratising as the YouTube’s early days. Instead of worrying, learn to work with it. It wil…

> Now you don’t need to hire junior devs and can just build the product of your dreams with very limited capital. You are overestimating the vast amount of "software engineers" in the world. The overwhelming majority of us are just programmers, we are just gluing together CRUD spaghetti in the random language we grew up with. We don't care too much about work or a career. And most of us don't want to do more, we want…

I mean this in the least snarky, most sympathetic way possible: it's time to level up. Countless roles have had to do this, it's now our turn.

Re: Post-GPT Computing

#27

I don’t get the overall doom and gloom towards LLMs on the software field. If you are a software engineer, this will output your productivity ten fold on the upcoming years. Now you don’t need to hire junior devs and can just build the product of your dreams with very limited capital. In my opinion this technology will be as democratising as the YouTube’s early days. Instead of worrying, learn to work with it. It wil…

> In my opinion this technology will be as democratising as the YouTube’s early days.

You mean the same YouTube that routinely ruins people's livelihoods when it closes their accounts with no recourse? Because I'm totally looking forward to the day when that happens to my development tools.

"We detected that you are using our code to kill vulnerable children (aka orphans). This is against our TOS and we have permanently disabled your account. If you believe this was in error please log into your account and talk to our ChatGPT-powered tech support".

Re: Post-GPT Computing

#28

I don’t get the overall doom and gloom towards LLMs on the software field. If you are a software engineer, this will output your productivity ten fold on the upcoming years. Now you don’t need to hire junior devs and can just build the product of your dreams with very limited capital. In my opinion this technology will be as democratising as the YouTube’s early days. Instead of worrying, learn to work with it. It wil…

So who will hire the junior software devs?

And how can somebody become a senior dev unless they first worked as a junior

Re: Post-GPT Computing

#29
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Job stability is measured in years. Looking forward, assuming it improves, it’ll do more than just copy/paste code. It’ll be a senior dev capable of explaining the pros and cons of a solution, able to do code reviews and so on.

It's time to build a business I guess? Others have said exactly what I'm thinking, welcome to the age of the micro-startup, 1-3 engineers, designers, product mangers building some very cool, albeit niche products.

And what that business will be worth when any random guy can create an identical one using a LLM? You remove the scarcity and the value plummets.

Re: Post-GPT Computing

#30

I don’t get the overall doom and gloom towards LLMs on the software field. If you are a software engineer, this will output your productivity ten fold on the upcoming years. Now you don’t need to hire junior devs and can just build the product of your dreams with very limited capital. In my opinion this technology will be as democratising as the YouTube’s early days. Instead of worrying, learn to work with it. It wil…

> In my opinion this technology will be as democratising as the YouTube’s early days. You mean the same YouTube that routinely ruins people's livelihoods when it closes their accounts with no recourse? Because I'm totally looking forward to the day when that happens to my development tools. "We detected that you are using our code to kill vulnerable children (aka orphans). This is against our TOS and we have permanen…

Code stays with you. Im more concerned with prompts like “please produce code to copy product X with the following changes”.
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