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#42I'm sympathetic to his situation, but he may be in danger of another lawsuit, this one with some merit.
Unless he licensed it, he seems to have stolen almost the exact melody from the 1977 song "What a Difference You've Made in My Life"[1].
Here's the Ronnie Milsap version of "What a Difference...": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VNI0PylgV8
And here's Afroman's "Will You Help Me Repair My Gate": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oponIfu5L3Y
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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_a_Difference_You%27ve_Mad...
Re: US Police raids home; sues homeowner over CCTV footage of raid
#43I thought that HN discouraged hyperbolic/clickbaity/deceptive titles. "Homeowner" is a celeb [Afroman] and the "CCTV footage" was published in social media and in music videos without their consent.
HN is exactly as wildly biased as all the other big tech sites. It pretends to be unbiased but it's not. You'll be flagged/banned for pointing this out.
What is the alleged bias? Anti-cop? Anti-home invaders?
Re: US Police raids home; sues homeowner over CCTV footage of raid
#44I'm sympathetic to his situation, but he may be in danger of another lawsuit, this one with some merit. Unless he licensed it, he seems to have stolen almost the exact melody from the 1977 song "What a Difference You've Made in My Life"[1]. Here's the Ronnie Milsap version of "What a Difference...": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VNI0PylgV8 And here's Afroman's "Will You Help Me Repair My Gate": https://www.youtube…
I believe this would be considered a parody, which doesn't require licensing.
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#45I'm sympathetic to his situation, but he may be in danger of another lawsuit, this one with some merit. Unless he licensed it, he seems to have stolen almost the exact melody from the 1977 song "What a Difference You've Made in My Life"[1]. Here's the Ronnie Milsap version of "What a Difference...": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VNI0PylgV8 And here's Afroman's "Will You Help Me Repair My Gate": https://www.youtube…
I believe this would be considered a parody, which doesn't require licensing.
Definitely a good point. I hadn't even considered that it might have been intended that way. Lyrically, it has nothing in common. But I guess on a purely thematic level, he could be sarcastically implying they made a difference in his life.
I'm not sure what is required to qualify as a parody, so maybe that's enough.
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EDIT: Based on one article I found, this might be satire (which isn't fair use) rather than parody (which is): https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/parody-vs-satire-in-copyr...
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
"US Police" is vague enough to be inaccurate. As written it implies a Federal force since they are direct arms of the US government, while the actual sheriff in question is a county agent. What organization is it referring to? The FBI is a Federal policing force but it's not commonly called the US Police. Is it the Secret Service? The US Postal Inspection Service? The National Park Police? The Fish and Wildlife Servi…
Sheriffs are US police to anyone not in the US. All of the others you list, too. Adam’s county or Ohio mean nothing to me.
If I read someone referring to "US Police" I would immediately consider some sort of federal US Marshals service or Secret Service. When we speak of police, we refer to their jurisdiction. Adams County Sheriff has jurisdiction in a county, obviously, not federal, not across state lines, only in that county.
Now I suppose if you're writing headlines for people in Kenya, you might specify "US law enforcement" but "US Police" is just sloppy writing. I didn't see it in the linked article.
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#47If there's one thing police can't stand it's being held accountable for their own actions. If the cops break into your house based on completely fabricated charges, destroy a bunch of your property and traumatize your family, at least from where I'm sitting, it kind of feels like it should be your right to record and disseminate footage of the illegal home invasion however you like.
End qualified immunity, civil asset forfeiture, and the all-too-frequent killings.
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#48Since the issue looks to be the consent of the footage being released, would it be the same situation if the footage came from their body cams requested by FOIA? Provided all of their cams didn't simultaneously and mysteriously malfunction of course. Either way I hope things go Afroman's way on this. The raid itself was complete clown shoes.
They have no claim. Irizarry vs Yehia[0], among others, have concluded that filming a public servant in the execution of their duties have no right to privacy. There was another case that came to the same conclusion because a woman recorded cops wrecking her house during a search and then tried deleting the footage from her laptop, unfortunately I cannot find that case again.
[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksibilla/2022/07/24/first-am... (includes a link to the ruling directly from the 10th circuit website)
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
At the same accord, cops protecting the rights of the people ought to be championed as the paragons.
Cops don't protect the rights of the people, lawyers and judges do. Police have no duty to protect the public, their job is to enforce compliance with the law and protect the state's monopoly on violence. And even if they did, they shouldn't get special kudos just for just doing their job. They get their paycheck and pension and all the free donuts and coffee they want, that's enough.
In fact courts have repeatedly found that cops have no legal requirement to intervene, even if they see someone being stabbed by a fugitive they’re ostensibly searching for.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Adams County is in the US, and I don't see much wrong with referring to a sheriff's office as "police". Of course, I don't know what audience the headline writer had in mind. "Ohio" might suggest a state agency, and "Adams County" would lead to confusion, since there are several.
"US Police" is vague enough to be inaccurate. As written it implies a Federal force since they are direct arms of the US government, while the actual sheriff in question is a county agent. What organization is it referring to? The FBI is a Federal policing force but it's not commonly called the US Police. Is it the Secret Service? The US Postal Inspection Service? The National Park Police? The Fish and Wildlife Servi…
"Police in the US" then.
Which in Newsline shorthand would be "US Police".