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Do Kwon arrested in Montenegro: Interior Minister

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Re: Do Kwon arrested in Montenegro: Interior Minister

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Post by touisteur »

arcticbull wrote: post #188
nsajko wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His party didn't win the most votes in the 2020 elections, though, so he's currently only the President. The president is, like in many other European countries, not very powerful. More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_%C4%90ukanovi%C4%87

I was under the impression Prime Minister is the less powerful role, and President is usually synonymous with head of state.

Only in France? In Germany, Poland, Portugal (for example) power is mostly concentrated in PM role.

Re: Do Kwon arrested in Montenegro: Interior Minister

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Post by arcticbull »

nsajko wrote: post #190
arcticbull wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was under the impression Prime Minister is the less powerful role, and President is usually synonymous with head of state.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_of_government https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_of_state > A head of state (or chief of state) is the public persona who officially embodies a state[1] in its unity and legitimacy. Depending on the country's form of government and separation of powers, the head of state may be a ceremonial figurehead or concurrently the head of government and more [...]

Yep they're not the same, but usually the head of government is the head of state in presidential systems.

[edit] In fact... "President is a common title for the head of state in most republics. The president of a nation is, generally speaking, the head of the government and the fundamental leader of the country or the ceremonial head of state." [1]

Anyways interesting stuff.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_(government_title)

Re: Do Kwon arrested in Montenegro: Interior Minister

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Post by bilekas »

arcticbull wrote: post #188
nsajko wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His party didn't win the most votes in the 2020 elections, though, so he's currently only the President. The president is, like in many other European countries, not very powerful. More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_%C4%90ukanovi%C4%87

I was under the impression Prime Minister is the less powerful role, and President is usually synonymous with head of state.

In Ireland at least the president is 90%< symbolic.

Re: Do Kwon arrested in Montenegro: Interior Minister

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Post by sacrosancty »

steveBK123 wrote: post #183

What is the point of having a zillion magic internet moneys if you can't get yourself off the financial grid and living in a non-extradition country? Cmon. What a bunch of jokers. I think it's a hugely bearish case for crypto that none of the crypto guys have been able to use it to avoid authorities for more than a few weeks/months. That's literally one of its alleged use cases. "The government can't control it". SBF…

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Re: Do Kwon arrested in Montenegro: Interior Minister

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Post by inconceivable »

CoBE10 wrote: post #139

Do those people think that Montenegro won't give them to US? I've seen a few mentions of Montenegro in some American TV shows and they always say "The X has escaped to Montenegro...", "Montenegro doesn't have extradition treaty with US...". That's not true, and it was never true. Montenegro just can't sue them in Montenegrin court, because of the treaty that Montenegro can sue American citizens in American courts.

kwon is south korean and wanted by the south korean authorities.

Re: Do Kwon arrested in Montenegro: Interior Minister

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Post by medo-bear »

nsajko wrote: post #187
medo-bear wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: Montenegro has the longest serving head of state in Europe, Mile Djukanovic, probably making even Lukashenko of Belorus jealous. But don't worry, despite widespread accusations and suspicions of corruption, nepotism, and even drug trafficking, he is our ally... and hence not a dictator

His party didn't win the most votes in the 2020 elections, though, so he's currently only the President. The president is, like in many other European countries, not very powerful. More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_%C4%90ukanovi%C4%87

> The president is, like in many other European countries, not very powerful

Montenegro is definitely not like many other European countries. If anything it is like a region of one European country, namely Sicily

https://www.occrp.org/en/poy/2015/

https://leaderssummit.medium.com/joe-biden-milo-djukanovic-t...

Re: Do Kwon arrested in Montenegro: Interior Minister

#198

Post by ForHackernews »

bflesch wrote: post #171
noloblo wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

was do kwon arrested in montenegro for the interpol/south korean red notice or the united states sec case?

he was arrested for travelling with fake documents

Our randian cryptoheroes have no use for your trifling government-issued "fiat" documents. My transit visa exists forever on the eternal blockchain!

Re: Do Kwon arrested in Montenegro: Interior Minister

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Post by jacquesm »

medo-bear wrote: post #137
ezekiel68 wrote: post #128

What is this world coming to when Crypto renegades can no longer flee to Montenegro using falsified documents? This must somehow be seen as yet another nail in the coffin of Big centralized fiat currency. /s

Fun fact: Montenegro has the longest serving head of state in Europe, Mile Djukanovic, probably making even Lukashenko of Belorus jealous. But don't worry, despite widespread accusations and suspicions of corruption, nepotism, and even drug trafficking, he is our ally... and hence not a dictator

But not unbroken. Meanwhile, NL has had the same MP for the last 13 years, and this in spite of the government falling in that period.

Re: Do Kwon arrested in Montenegro: Interior Minister

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Post by tasuki »

arcticbull wrote: post #192
nsajko wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_of_government https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_of_state > A head of state (or chief of state) is the public persona who officially embodies a state[1] in its unity and legitimacy. Depending on the country's form of government and separation of powers, the head of state may be a ceremonial figurehead or concurrently the head of government and more [...]

Yep they're not the same, but usually the head of government is the head of state in presidential systems. [edit] In fact... "President is a common title for the head of state in most republics. The president of a nation is, generally speaking, the head of the government and the fundamental leader of the country or the ceremonial head of state." [1] Anyways interesting stuff. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preside…

Yes, in presidential systems, sure. But who was talking about those here?

Montenegro is a parliamentary republic, and vast majority of Europe is either a parliamentary republic or a constitutional monarchy [0]

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_system#/media/Fil...

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